Conversations around web accessibility
A11y (pronounced “ally”) Savvy is a podcast that explores how to design and develop for web accessibility. Hosted by quality and accessibility engineer, Crystal Preston-Watson, each episode she will discuss ideas and explore themes that will give you the tools you need to build an accessible web for everyone.
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Albert Kim talks about OCD, PTSD, and web accessibility
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Albert stresses the importance of letting users control their experience, through settings and various controls. Download file “Albert Kim talks about OCD, PTSD, and web accessibility” | Duration: 11:53 | Guest: Albert Kim | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Albert Kim talks about OCD, PTSD, and web accessibility…
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Amy Carney talks about text that gets cut off
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Amy says that if you cut text off and don’t provide a way to expand it, she can’t read your content. Download file “Amy Carney talks about text that gets cut off” | Duration: 5:48 | Guest: Amy Carney | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Amy Carney talks about text that gets cut offPor Nicolas Steenhout
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Amy Carney talks about low vision, sticky elements, and overlays
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Amy tells us that sticky elements are a problem for her as they can hide content. And overlays don’t help. Download file “Amy Carney talks about low vision, sticky elements, and overlays” | Duration: 5:41 | Guest: Amy Carney | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Amy Carney talks about low vision, sticky elements, and overlays…
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Dacey Nolan talks about epilepsy and her barriers on the web
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Dacey says, among other things “If you’re going to include animated GIFs, I would recommend them not playing by default, but allowing the user to click a play button.” Download file “Dacey Nolan talks about epilepsy and her barriers on the web” | Duration: 15:02 | Guest: Dacey Nolan | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Dacey Nolan talks …
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Listen to disabled people’s stories – IDPD 2021
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Listen to disabled people year round, not just on International Day of Persons with Disabilities. Download file “Listen to disabled people's stories - IDPD 2021” | Duration: 3:06 | Guest: Nic Steenhout | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Listen to disabled people’s stories – IDPD 2021Por Nicolas Steenhout
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Kelly Hussey talks about speech input and visible element separation
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Kelly says “if you have long tables and lists actually put borders on them”, so she knows what she’s picking up. Download file “Kelly Hussey talks about speech input and visible element separation” | Duration: 5:20 | Guest: Kelly Hussey | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Kelly Hussey talks about speech input and visible element separat…
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Kevin Mar-Molinero talks about dyscalculia and copy/pasting
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Kevin says: Give user choice: “Obviously what’s good for me won’t be good for someone else. We shouldn’t be designing for a kind of homogeneous grade of people.” Download file “Kevin Mar-Molinero talks about dyscalculia and copy/pasting” | Duration: 12:46 | Guest: Kevin Mar-Molinero | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Kevin Mar-Molinero…
Ruben, talking about text reflow, says sometimes “text will actually go over the container and sometimes I can’t even see what things say. I have to open up the developer console and actually look at it”. Download file “Ruben Nic talks about Kerotoconus” | Duration: 8:09 | Guest: Ruben Nic | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Ruben Nic t…
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Julia Ferraioli talks about chronic pain and brain fog
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Julia tells us that “it’s so easy to kind of get caught up with the latest features or the latest like tricks that you learn about to make, you know, a shiny website. But you have to consider the usability of all of your users not just, you know, the folks like you or the folks that are super tech savvy” Download file “Julia Ferraioli talks about c…
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Meryl K. Evans talks about being Deaf and caption quality
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Meryl tells us, among other things, that “If we notice the caption, it’s a sign they’re not good quality.” Download file “Meryl K. Evans talks about being Deaf and caption quality” | Duration: 10:09 | Guest: Meryl K. Evans | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Meryl K. Evans talks about being Deaf and caption quality…
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Dave Brown talks about low vision and simplicity on the web
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Dave says accessibility comes down to simplicity. And I think there is elegance in simplicity. But so many times we see all the bells and whistles that pop up on a website that people think gives it an elegant beauty or makes it makes it more pleasurable to the eye. What ends up happening is it makes the website more difficult to use. And that isn’…
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Ben Lesh talks about ADHD and reducing “noise”
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Ben Lesh says if you can do your best to actually get the users focus on what matters and kind of limit the noisiness of the other things that would be a big deal for certain folks. Download file “Ben Lesh talks about ADHD and reducing "noise"” | Duration: 8:05 | Guest: Ben Lesh | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Ben Lesh talks about A…
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Mike Calvo talks about blindness and inclusion
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Mike tells us about automating accessibility: “as a blind consumer, of content, information, whatever, I don’t care where I get it, as long as I get it. Information is what I need.” Download file “Mike Calvo talks about blindness and inclusion” | Duration: 10:12 | Guest: Mike Calvo | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Mike Calvo talks ab…
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Thane Pullan talks about switch input and CAPTCHAs
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Thane tells us that CAPTCHAS with time outs are the worse. He types very slowly and sometimes he can’t type the CAPTCHA in time. And the picture ones can be difficult to solve on occasion. Download file “Thane Pullan talks about switch input and CAPTCHAs” | Duration: 4:10 | Guest: Thane Pullan | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Thane P…
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Diana van Dulken talks about ADHD and things moving on screen
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Di tells us that to make the web more difficult than it needs to be for disabled people is a shitty thing to do. And it doesn’t reflect well on you. Download file “Diana van Dulken talks about ADHD and things moving on screen” | Duration: 12:03 | Guest: Diana van Dulken | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Diana van Dulken talks about AD…
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Default focus outlines: Don’t remove them!
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Multiple accessibility experts discuss the importance of the default focus style. Download file “Default focus outlines: Don't remove them!” | Duration: 9:15 | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Default focus outlines: Don’t remove them!Por Nicolas Steenhout
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Julieanne King talks about age-related reduction in visual acuity
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Julieanne King tells us that super thin, font strokes, really, really skinny lettering, and using like a medium gray font color cause a problem for a lot of users on the web. Download file “Julieanne King talks about age-related reduction in visual acuity” | Duration: 6:08 | Guest: Julieanne King | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Juli…
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Julieanne King talks about moving content on pages and ADHD
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Julieanne says when she’s information seeking, trying to accomplish a task, movement on the screen, that is not something that she causes to happen or choose to happen can absolutely derail her. Download file “Julieanne King talks about moving content on pages and ADHD” | Duration: 7:59 | Recorded on June 25, 2021 | Guest: Julieanne King | Series: …
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Tori Clark talks about visible labels and Dragon
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Tori points out that using speech input like Dragon Naturally Speaking is hard when there’s no visual label, or the visual label doesn’t match the programmatic label. She also says that developers need to understand that assistive technology users is a category of users that encompass more than just screen reader users. Download file “Tori Clark ta…
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Ted Galanos talks about switch input and the Darcy keyboard
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Ted explains how using switch inputs, such as the Darcy USB keyboard, can take a lot longer than other input methods. He also tells us to properly label and markup interactive elements! Download file “Ted Galanos talks about switch input and the Darcy keyboard” | Duration: 17:05 | Guest: Ted Galanos | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading T…
Transcript This podcast was due to launch in May 2020. Personal circumstances cause that launch to be delayed. I did manage to release an "Episode Zero". I was going to delete this episode as I was in a raw emotional state during the recording. The quality of the recording reflects that state. I have decided against it and instead will keep it as a…
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Episode One: Do Blind People Dream of Electric Memes?
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The basics of alternative (alt) text and why you should use it when you tweet dank memes on Twitter. Transcript Show Notes This should have been the second episode but I wrote it first. If you are completely unfamiliar with web accessibility you will still get good information but some concepts might not be as clear until you listen to the second e…
Transcript Introducing A11y Savvy. A podcast that explores how to design and develop for web accessibility. Hosted by quality and accessibility engineer, Crystal Preston-Watson, each week she will discuss ideas and explore themes that will give you the tools you need to build an accessible web for everyone.…
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Dr. Ellen Spertus talks about essential tremors and password fields
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Dr. Ellen Spertus explains that it’s easy to make mistakes on a password field and a “show password” feature is critical to accessibility. Download file “Dr. Ellen Spertus talks about essential tremors and password fields” | Duration: 4:06 | Recorded on March 10, 2021 | Guest: Ellen Spertus | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Dr. Ellen …
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Holly Schroeder talks about working memory and ADD
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Holly Schroeder says she navigates away immediately if a page is too busy. Too much stimuli overwhelms her. She can’t process the information properly, and that interferes with her ability to complete what she was trying to do in the first place! Download file “Holly Schroeder talks about working memory and ADD” | Duration: 8:13 | Guest: Holly Schr…
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Holly Schroeder talks about essential tremors and worsening vision
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Holly Schroeder explains that when a touch target is too small she may not be able to complete a task because she doesn’t have the fine motor control to tap her finger on the right area of the screen. Download file “Holly Schroeder talks about essential tremors and worsening vision” | Duration: 9:44 | Guest: Holly Schroeder | Series: A11y Rules Sou…
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Julia Ferraioli talks about contrast and parralax
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Julia Ferraioli says if you’re already dealing with blurry vision, making something blurry bigger, isn’t necessarily going to help that much. Download file “Julia Ferraioli talks about contrast and parralax” | Duration: 7:16 | Guest: Julia Ferraioli | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Julia Ferraioli talks about contrast and parralax…
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Michael Ausbun talks about blindness and ARIA live regions
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Michael thinks the most important thing that we fail to do on a daily basis is talking with people with disabilities or talking with the users in general. Download file “Michael Ausbun talks about blindness and ARIA live regions” | Duration: 9:26 | Guest: Michael Ausbun | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Michael Ausbun talks about blin…
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Alex Umstead discusses autism, flickering screens, and keyboard use
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Alex points out that if we make processes more complex for users, they aren’t likely to be able to finish things, or complete them properly. Download file “Alex Umstead discusses autism, flickering screens, and keyboard use” | Duration: 6:40 | Guest: Alex Umstead | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Alex Umstead discusses autism, flicker…
Global Awareness Accessibility Day 2020! This is the third year I’m having a special episode for this event. I started with panel discussions for the day – and was planning on keeping that up. However, technical issues limited our ability to come together and have an actual discussion. So I got my guests to record their answers and this is the show…
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E097 – Interview with Joe Devon – Part 2
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Joe Devon says the one thing people should remember about accessibility is that building great products is about listening to your user. And if you are not making your products accessible, you are not paying attention to your users. Download file “E097 - Interview with Joe Devon - Part 2” | Duration: 20:06 | Guest: Joe Devon | Series: A11y Rules Po…
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E096 – Interview with Joe Devon – Part 1
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Joe Devon tells us that lot of accessibility is knowing the culture and different communities that view it differently. Download file “E096 - Interview with Joe Devon - Part 1” | Duration: 26:59 | Guest: Joe Devon | Series: A11y Rules Podcast Continue Reading E096 – Interview with Joe Devon – Part 1Por Nicolas Steenhout
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E095 – Interview with Devon Persing – Part 2
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Devon Persing and I talk a little bit about burnout in the web accessibility industry. Download file “E095 - Interview with Devon Persing - Part 2” | Duration: 29:59 | Guest: Devon Persing | Series: A11y Rules Podcast Continue Reading E095 – Interview with Devon Persing – Part 2Por Nicolas Steenhout
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E094 – Interview with Devon Persing – Part 1
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Devon Persing tells us that the compliance model doesn’t capture the whole picture of accessibility. And it feels like a separate thing from design/dev work. Download file “E094 - Interview with Devon Persing - Part 1” | Duration: 28:04 | Guest: Devon Persing | Series: A11y Rules Podcast Continue Reading E094 – Interview with Devon Persing – Part 1…
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E093 – Interview with Tony Coelho – Part 2
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Congressman Tony Coelho tells us that people with disabilities must have the right to fail. Without failure you can’t learn from the mistake. Without failure there’s no growth. Without a right to fail, your growth is stunted. Download file “E093 - Interview with Tony Coelho - Part 2” | Duration: 23:47 | Guest: Tony Coelho | Series: A11y Rules Podca…
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JL Sorak talks about dyslexia and how sites handle mistakes
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JL tells us about sites that don’t make it easy to avoid mistakes, and don’t handle mistakes well, make it hard for folks who are dyslexic. Download file “JL Sorak talks about dyslexia and how sites handle mistakes” | Duration: 7:00 | Guest: Jean Luc Sorak | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading JL Sorak talks about dyslexia and how sites h…
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E092 – Interview with Tony Coelho – Part 1
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Congressman Tony Coelho talks about his life with a disability, his journey of working for the People, and how he introduced the ADA. Download file “E092 - Interview with Tony Coelho - Part 1” | Duration: 24:26 | Guest: Tony Coelho | Series: A11y Rules Podcast Continue Reading E092 – Interview with Tony Coelho – Part 1…
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Devon Persing talks about depression and brain fog
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Devon tells us how depression can cause brain fog and it impacts everything she does on the web. Download file “Devon Persing talks about depression and brain fog” | Duration: 5:00 | Guest: Devon Persing | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Devon Persing talks about depression and brain fog…
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Patrick Burke talks about headings and screen readers
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Patrick tells us that having headings that describe the content on the page is critical for screen reader users. He feels proper hierarchy is nice, but not as important. Download file “Patrick Burke talks about headings and screen readers” | Duration: 12:00 | Guest: Patrick Burke | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Patrick Burke talks a…
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E091- Interview with Emily Lewis – Part 2
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Emily Lewis said: Accessibility is not about screen readers or keyboard navigation or code. It’s about people. And them being able to access information and resources, community… all of it Download file “E091- Interview with Emily Lewis - Part 2” | Duration: 29:31 | Guest: Emily Lewis | Series: A11y Rules Podcast Continue Reading E091- Interview wi…
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E089 – Interview with Amberley Romo – Part 2
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About one thing everyone knows about accessibility… Amberley says: “I think everyone knows when something is not acceptable to them” Download file “E089 - Interview with Amberley Romo - Part 2” | Duration: 24:00 | Guest: Amberley Romo | Series: A11y Rules Podcast Continue Reading E089 – Interview with Amberley Romo – Part 2…
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E088 – Interview with Amberley Romo – Part 1
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Amberley defines web accessibility as “building for the web in ways that ensure it’s usable by everyone. There aren’t barriers to use for anyone. So, I would say it’s about digital equal access, kind of along the same lines as physical equal access. So, just putting people at the center of building for the web.” Download file “E088 - Interview with…
Sveta tells us “We are often told that bad captions are better than nothing, but they cause cognitive dissonance for us [deaf folks].” Download file “Sveta Kouznetsova talks about the importance of transcripts and captions” | Guest: Svetlana Kouznetsova | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading Sveta Kouznetsova talks about the importance of …
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E086 – Interview with Christopher Schmitt – Part 1
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Christopher says that for someone who likes Design so much, he didn’t realize how important good color contrast was, and how bad color contrast issues are. Download file “E086 - Interview with Christopher Schmitt - Part 1” | Duration: 23:44 | Guest: Christopher Schmitt | Series: A11y Rules Podcast Continue Reading E086 – Interview with Christopher …
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E085 – Interview with Jessica Ivins – Part 2
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Jessica suggests that accessibility is a competitive advantage. The more people can use your product, the more likely they are to spend money on it. Download file “E085 - Interview with Jessica Ivins - Part 2” | Duration: 22:18 | Guest: Jessica Ivins | Series: A11y Rules Podcast Continue Reading E085 – Interview with Jessica Ivins – Part 2…
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E084 – Interview with Jessica Ivins – Part 1
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Jessica and I ponder whether low-literacy could be considered a disability, and regardless of the answer, that factor needs to be taken into account when designing sites and content. Download file “E084 - Interview with Jessica Ivins - Part 1” | Duration: 25:44 | Guest: Jessica Ivins | Series: A11y Rules Podcast Continue Reading E084 – Interview wi…
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EJ Mason talks about CP and how cramps impact internet use
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EJ Tells us about how Cerebral Palsy and how it may cause cramps, forcing him to shift how he interacts with devices. Download file “EJ Mason talks about CP and how cramps impact internet use” | Duration: 5:40 | Guest: EJ Mason | Series: A11y Rules Soundbite Continue Reading EJ Mason talks about CP and how cramps impact internet use…
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Mel Chua talks about speech input and captions as a Deaf individual
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Mel Chua tells us that the onus shouldn’t be on her to request accessibility accommodations – it should be there from the start. And she shouldn’t be made to feel as if providing accommodations is something generous the service provider is doing. Download file “Mel Chua talks about speech input and captions as a Deaf individual” | Duration: 14:34 |…
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E083 – Interview with Stephanie Walter – Part 2
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Stephanie Walter says there’s a lot of things she thought everybody knew about accessibility that actually not a lot of people knew. So, she thinks in general people know that somewhere on the internet some people are blind. Download file “E083 - Interview with Stephanie Walter - Part 2” | Duration: 17:54 | Guest: Stephanie Walter | Series: A11y Ru…
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E082 – Interview with Stephanie Walter – Part 1
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Stephanie Walter tells us that designers should provide a roadmap to their design for the developer, but in many projects, there just isn’t time to do that. Download file “E082 - Interview with Stephanie Walter - Part 1” | Duration: 25:58 | Guest: Stephanie Walter | Series: A11y Rules Podcast Continue Reading E082 – Interview with Stephanie Walter …