Two political philosophers, one a right-wing radical, the other a left-wing heretic, come together to discuss the social, political and cultural issues of our day.
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Do white people need to become race conscious? Is America a white supremacist culture? Is racisim a structure rather than an event? Should white women cry in the presence of women of colour? Jonathan and Holly discuss the notion of white fragility popularised by Robin Diangelo in her controversial book White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White Pe…
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Jonathan and Holly explore decolonisation. What does it mean? What are its goals? Has it overreached and can it succeed? The article discussed in this episode is “On Decolonisation and the University." The Political Animals is co-hosted by: Jonathan Cole, an academic interested in conservatism, libertarianism, political ideology and politic…
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This weak Jonathan and Holly discuss (debate) the issue of hate speech and in particular whether it should be banned or addressed by counterspeech, especially state-based counterspeech. The Political Animals is co-hosted by: Jonathan Cole, an academic interested in conservatism, libertarianism, political ideology and political theology; and …
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When Is Political Association a Sin?
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Where is the boundary between legitimate and illegitimate political association? Jonathan and Holly examine the case of the “Let Women Speak” rally held on the steps of the Victorian Parliament in March 2023, which was gatecrashed by neo-Nazis and led to the expulsion of Moira Deeming from the Liberal Party for the alleged sin of political associat…
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Jonathan and Holly pose the question: is LGBTIQ a political ideology? They discuss the concept and meaning of the acronym LGBTIQ, its internal dynamics and conflicts, its incorporation into the state ideology, as well as its broader political connotations, dimensions and ramifications for policy and society. The Political Animals is co-hosted by: …
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Welcome to the relaunch of The Political Animals Podcast! A show where two political philosophers, one a right-wing radical, the other a left-wing heretic, come together to discuss the social, political and cultural issues of our day. The Political Animals is co-hosted by: Jonathan Cole, an academic interested in conservatism, libertarianism, polit…
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Mark Hornshaw: Socially Conservative, Christian Libertarian
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Jonathan chats to Mark Hornshaw, a libertarian and Austrian economist who is also socially conservative and a Christian. You can check out some of the articles Mark mentions in the show here: Australia’s Violent Enforcement of Lockdowns Sparks Memories of the Eureka Rebellion. Isaiah’s Job. Jeremiah’s Job.…
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Jack Jacobs: An Old Whig Burkean Reformer
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Jonathan talks to Jack Jacobs about the influence of Burke on his political thought and why he describes himself as an old whig in the mould of Burke.
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Dr Luke Torrisi: TradCon Dissident from Machine Politics
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Jonathan talks to Dr Luke Torrisi about living through the demographic and cultural transformation of southwestern Sydney in the 1980s, his involvement on the right of the NSW Liberal Party in the 1990s and 2000s, and finding his spiritual home in traditionalist conservatism.
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Alex McEncroe: From Anarcho-Capitalist to Conservative Liberal (via Traditionalist Conservatism)
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The second in a series exploring the political ideas of the Right through intellectual biography. Terrain covered in this episode: Libertarianism Anarcho-capitalism Traditionalist Conservatism Conservative Liberalism Ordoliberalism
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Jordan Dittloff: How I Became a Rothbardian in Prison
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A new series profiling interesting personalities and thinkers on the Aussie Right (conservatives, libertarians, liberals and populists). Jordan Dittloff is the lead Senate candidate for the Libertarian Party in Victoria.
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Australian Political Thought, with Prof Wayne Hudson
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Intellectual historian Prof Wayne Hudson returns to the show for a discussion about his latest research project: Australian political thought. The Political Animals is hosted by Dr Jonathan Cole, an academic, writer, speaker and translator specialising in political theology: the intersection of religion and politics. Jonathan was a senior terrori…
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Peter Viereck and New Conservatism, with Dr Simon Kennedy
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Simon Kennedy joins Jonathan for a conversation about twentieth century American conservative intellectual Peter Viereck and his critique of so-called new conservatism in America. Simon Kennedy has a PhD in history from the University of Queensland (UQ). He is currently Associate Editor of Quadrant Magazine and a Research Fellow in the Law School…
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Eric Voegelin’s Concept of Political Gnosticism: A Conversation with Dr Simon Kennedy
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Simon Kennedy joins Jonathan for a conversation about conservative philosophy Eric Voegelin’s essay Politics, Science, and Gnosticism, and in particular his thesis that major 20th century political and intellectual movements are modern manifestations of gnosticism. Simon Kennedy has a PhD in history from the University of Queensland (UQ). He is cur…
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Quadrant Magazine and Conservatism in Australia, with Dr Ian Tregenza
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Ian Tregenza joins Jonathan for a conversation about the history of Quadrant Magazine and its cultural impact in Australia, and particularly on the nature of conservatism in Australia. Ian is an Associate Professor at the School of Social Sciences at Macquarie University. He works in the areas of political theory, the history of political thought a…
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Anarcho-Capitalism, with Pietro Angeli
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Jonathan talks to Libertarian Party member Pietro Angeli about the anarcho-capitalist alternative to the state. Pietro Angeli is a member of the Libertarian Party State Executive in Victoria. The Political Animals is hosted by Dr Jonathan Cole, a scholar, writer and translator specialising in political theology: the intersection of religion and…
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Faith and Politics in New Zealand for Australian (and other) Dummies, with Tim Wilson
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Jonathan is joined by Tim Wilson, Executive Director of NZ think tank Maxim Institute, for a conversation about faith and politics across the ditch (detch). Tim Wilson is currently Executive Director of Maxim Institute. Prior to this role, Tim was an award-winning journalist working in print, radio and television. His work has appeared in The New Y…
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This is part 2 of Jonathan's conversation with Josh Lewis of the Saving Elephants podcast on the topic of political theology. Check out the Saving Elephants podcast here: "Millennials defending and expressing conservative values." The Political Animals is hosted by Dr Jonathan Cole, a scholar, writer and translator specialising in political theolog…
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This is the first of Jonathan's two-part conversation with Josh Lewis of the Saving Elephants podcast on the topic of political theology. Check out the Saving Elephants podcast here: "Millennials defending and expressing conservative values." The Political Animals is hosted by Dr Jonathan Cole, a scholar, writer and translator specialising in polit…
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The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, with Prof Nicholas Aroney
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Constitutional scholar Nicholas Aroney joins Jonathan for an examination of the legal meaning and implications of the proposed new s129 in the Australia Constitution that establishes the Voice, and which is the subject of a referendum on 14 October. Nicholas Aroney is Professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Queensland. He has published…
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The Triumph of Technique over Purpose and the Problem with the Moral Language of "Values", with Prof Iain Benson
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Jonathan is joined by Iain Benson for a conversation about values and virtues. They discuss the triumph of technique over purpose in our contemporary culture, the problems with adopting "values" as our primary moral language and the need to recover the ancient moral language of virtue. Iain Benson is Professor of Law at Notre Dame University, Sydne…
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Wake Up, Lefties, and Reject Wokeness: A Conversation with Prof Clive Hamilton
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Clive Hamilton joins the show to discuss his left-wing critique of wokeness published in the Sydney Morning Herald. Clive Hamilton is Professor of Public Ethics at Charles Sturt University. He is the found of The Australia Institute and the author of many books, including Defiant Earth: The Fate of Humans in the Anthropocene, Silent Invasion: China…
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Reading Edmund Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France with Dr Holly Lawford-Smith
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In this episode, Jonathan engages in a conversation about conservatism with political philosopher and radical feminist Holly Lawford-Smith. They do so by discussing Burke's classic text, Reflections on The Revolution in France, which they both read (Holly for the first time) in preparation for the podcast. The conversation ranges across reform vers…
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Linguistic tyranny: the fight for free speech, with Brendan O'Neill
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Free speech warrior Brendan O'Neill joins Jonathan for a discussion about free speech, cancel culture, linguistic tyranny and the Orwellian assault on reality afflicting contemporary Western societies. Brendan is a journalist who has written columns for the Australian, the Spectator and the Big Issue. He is best know for his work at Spiked, where h…
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Russia: A Guide for the Perplexed, with Dr Andreas Berg
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Jonathan is joined by Russian-Australian scholar Andreas Berg for a deep dive on contemporary Russia. They cover the anarchic chaos of the 1990s transition from communism, the rise of Vladimir Putin, the nature and operation of Putin's regime, the complex and fraught relationship between Russia and Ukraine, the current war in Ukraine, the would-be …
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A Compassionate, Yet Orthodox, Approach to Homosexuality and Gender Incongruence in the Church, with Pieter Valk
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Jonathan is joined by Pieter Valk for a conversation about how churches that adhere to traditional Christian teaching on sexuality and sexual ethics can care for and support gay and trans Christians. Pieter Valk is the founder and director of Equip, a consulting ministry aimed at helping churches to be places where gay and LGBT Christians can thriv…
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The Myth of the Sovereign Self (and Other Libertarian Heresies Corrupting Conservatism), with Gray Connolly
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Jonathan is joined by conservative commentator Gray Connolly for an examination of the good, the bad and the ugly of contemporary conservatism. They cover the traditional conservative understanding of government, authority, society, family, duty, inheritance and culture and the many libertarian (and populist) heresies perverting this understanding …
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John Milbank on Christian Political Theology and its Secular Perversions
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John Milbank joins Jonathan for wide-ranging tour of political theology, contemporary secular politics, contemporary political problems, cultural decadence and the opportunities and challenges for a Christian contribution to our contemporary political malaise. John Milbank is an Emeritus Professor in the Department of Theology and Religious Studies…
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Dr Knox Peden on his Journey from Spinoza and Marx to Catholicism
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Knox Peden returns to the show to discuss his interesting, and by today's standard unusual, journey from secular intellectual influenced by Spinoza and Marx to practicing Catholic. Dr Knox Peden is an intellectual historian who has taught philosophy and history at the University of Melbourne, the Australian National University and the University of…
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Evangelicalism: An Insider's Critique of a Wayward Movement, with Prof Constantine Campbell
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Constantine Campbell joins Jonathan for a discussion of his provocative book Jesus v. Evangelicals: A Biblical Critique of a Wayward Movement. They discuss Penal Substitutionary Atonement, the hierarchy of evangelical sins, megachurch culture, Evangelical social and political engagement and more. Constantine Campbell is a New Testament scholar who …
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Russian Orthodoxy: From Communist Repression to State Ideology and the War in Ukraine, with Prof Kristina Stoeckl
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Jonathan is joined by sociologist Kristina Stoeckl for a deep dive on the Russian Orthodox Church, tracing its complex journey from repression under Soviet communism to support for Vladimir Putin and source of an orthodox nationalist state ideology. Kristina Stoeckl is Professor of Sociology at LUISS Guido Carli University in Rome, as well as an ad…
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The Wreck of Western Culture: The Struggle to Find Meaning in a Post-Christian World, with Prof John Carroll
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Sociologist John Carroll joins Jonathan for an examination of the decline of Western culture. They discuss the failure of humanism to find meaning on the big metaphysical questions in a post-Christian world, the importance of archetypes and their transmission through a canon of great literature, the way that popular culture has replaced high cultur…
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Symbolism and the Sacred in Cities, Ancient and Modern, with Dr Mario Baghos
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Mario Baghos joins Jonathan for a conversation about the symbolic and sacred function of ancient cities and the decline and mutation of this function in modern cities. Dr Mario Baghos is an Academic Sessional in the Department of Philosophy and Theology at the University of Notre Dame, Sydney, as well as Adjunct Lecturer in Theology in the Faculty …
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Why Secularism is Good for Religion and its Perversion Bad for Everyone, with Dr Michael Bird
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Michael Bird returns to the show for a discussion about secularism. Jonathan and Michael cover the Christian origins of secularism, why it is in the interests of religious people to have a secular government, the threat to the secular compact by militant secularism and the inimical impact of the contemporary perversion of genuine secularism. Dr Mic…
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Sydney Anglicanism, with Rev Dr Michael Jensen
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Michael Jensen joins Jonathan for an exploration of the ins and outs of Sydney's unique, and influential, brand of Anglicanism. The conversation covers the historical origins of the Sydney diocese and its distinct character, controversies surrounding the chasuble, lay presidency (administration) and women in ministry, as well as Sydney Anglican pol…
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A Pox on Both Their Houses: Libertarianism, with Katherine Mangu-Ward
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Katherine Mangu-Ward joins Jonathan for a conversation about libertarianism. They explore the role of reason and free markets in the libertarian philosophy, the role and legitimate scope of government, progress towards libertarian goals over the 20th century, the tension between libertarianism's future-oriented optimism and conservatism's past-orie…
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Liberalism in Australia, with Prof Judith Brett
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Jonathan is joined by historian Judith Brett for a conversation about the history of liberalism in Australia. They explore the impact of 19th century liberalism on Australian politics and identity, the political struggle between liberalism and the Labor movement in the 20th century, the idea of the 'moral middle class' and its support for the Liber…
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Gender Clinics and the Politicisation of Medicine, with Bernard Lane
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Journalist Bernard Lane joins the show for a conversation about gender clinics and the way that political ideology, activism, social phenomena, medicine and mental health intersect in the treatment of children and adolescents with gender dysphoria. Bernard Lane is a journalist covering the international debate about medicalised gender change for yo…
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Beyond Religion and the Secular: A Conversation with Prof Wayne Hudson
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Intellectual historian Wayne Hudson returns to the show for a discussion of his recently published book, Beyond Religion and the Secular: Creative Spiritual Movements and Their Relevance to Political, Social and Cultural Reform (Bloomsbury, 2023). Wayne and Jonathan ponder what religion has to offer humanity in advanced technological societies (a q…
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Conservatism vs Liberalism: Reviewing Yoram Hazony's Case for Conservatism, with Dr Simon Kennedy
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Jonathan is joined by Simon Kennedy for a discussion of Yoram Hazony's celebrated 2022 book, Conservatism: A Rediscovery. They focus on the the contrast Hazony draws between conservatism and liberalism, with particular emphasis on conservative and liberal epistemologies, the role of public religion, the failure of liberalism and the the influence o…
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The Triumph of Nationalist Populism and the Failure of Conservatism: Dissecting the American Right, with Josh Lewis
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Jonathan is joined by fellow conservative podcaster Josh Lewis for a discussion about the evolving realignments on the American Right in the wake of the political earthquake that was (still is) Donald Trump. They explore conservative philosophy, fusionism, the rise of nationalist populism, the state of American culture, the place and role of Americ…
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Christian Apologetics in an Age of Secular Ignorance and Hostility, with Dan Paterson
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Host Jonathan is joined by Dan Paterson, a pastor, apologist and evangelist, for an exploration of the challenges and opportunities to introduce young people to the Christian good news in a culture now characterised by widespread ignorance of Christianity and growing hostility towards the faith, yet crying out for meaning. Dan Patterson is the foun…
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Trump, Ukraine, Covid Forgiveness and Living in Babylon: A Conversation with Martyn Iles
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Martyn Iles joins Jonathan for a wide-ranging conversation about the wisdom of Donald Trump making another presidential bid, the moral equivocation among sections of the Right over Putin's invasion of Ukraine, the need to move on from the trauma of Covid, but also to learn lessons from mistakes in the response, and why Christians need to adjust to …
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Anti-Communism, the Labor Party Split, the Rise of the DLP and Catholic Tribalism: Remembering B.A. Santamaria, with Gerard Henderson
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Author and political commentator Gerard Henderson joins Jonathan for a conversation about B.A. Santamaria and the seminal political moments in Australia history that he was involved in. Drawing on his personal recollections of knowing and working with Santamaria, as well as the three books he has written on this "most unusual man," Gerard tells the…
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Are States Illegitimate, Dangerous and Unnecessary? Radical Consociationalism, with Prof Gary Chartier
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Jonathan is joined by Gary Chartier for a critical dialogue about his forthcoming book, Christianity and the Nation-State: A Study in Political Theology. The book provocatively contends that states are fundamentally illegitimate and dangerous, notwithstanding many Christian attempts at justifying their existence, and that they can be replaced with …
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Monarchy vs Republic and the Power of Political Symbols, with Dr Joshua Neoh
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With the passing of Queen Elizabeth II and the accession to the throne of King Charles III, Jonathan engages in a friendly debate with legal philosopher Joshua Neoh about Australia's constitutional monarchy and its republican alternatives. Joshua outlines his case for monarchy per se, and the British monarchy specifically, followed by Jonathan outl…
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Neoliberalism: The Scope, Application and Limits of Free Markets, with Dr Gordon Menzies
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Jonathan is joined by economist Dr Gordon Menzies for a deep dive on neoliberalism. They discuss the concept of free markets and the logic of extending free market thinking to aspects of human life that are not obviously economic. They examine and evaluate the neoliberal economic reforms of the 1980s, including floating the dollar, trade liberalisa…
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Andrew Thorburn and the Death of Pluralism, with Religious Freedom Lawyer John Steenhof
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John Steenhof, Principal Lawyer at the Human Rights Law Alliance, joined Jonathan for another conversation about the kinds of cases he works in the religious freedom/discrimination space. The conversation was scheduled prior to, but coinciding with, the the eruption of the Andrew Thorburn case—the CEO of the Essendon Football club forced to resign …
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Are Women Fully Human? Gender Norms and the Politics of Feminism, with Dr Holly Lawford-Smith
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Holly Lawford-Smith returns to the show for a discussion about her new book, Gender-Critical Feminism (OUP). Following a quick tour of significant developments in the transgender space since Holly and Jonathan last spoke (December, 2021), the pair delve into gender norms, including their connection to sex, distinction from identity, cultural and po…
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A History of Conservatism in Australia, with Prof Greg Melleuish
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In this episode, Jonathan is joined by Prof Greg Melleuish for a conversation about conservatism in Australia. They explore the dominant liberal tradition in Australian history and the place of conservatism in that tradition, the reasons why the language of conservatism emerges late in Australian political history, the general conservative nature o…
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