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In the late 1960s, a Soviet nuclear missile submarine went missing in the Pacific Ocean. The American government wanted those missiles. But how could they possibly grab a massive submarine from the bottom of the ocean without the Soviets finding out? The answer, as you probably would suspect by now, is complicated and a little ridiculous...…
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Satan is showing up in more and more conspiracy theories these days, and so Nathan decided it was time for some old-fashioned Bible study. On this episode, special guest pod person Professor Jon Zeyl drops in for a discussion of three books from the Old Testament, and how maybe things are a bit more confusing and complicated than we think (as alway…
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How do reality and fiction influence each other? On this episode, Lee and Nathan get philosophical as they discuss the importance of stories and the differences between real life and imagination, then they get irritated and angry while talking about the ways in which scammers try to blur fiction and reality in order to rip off vulnerable people.…
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Time to clean out the junk drawer... this time, Lee picks out a story of an American president using an astrologer to make important decisions during a very dangerous time in history, and Nathan discusses the international scandal of the F-104 Starfighter (aka the "Widowmaker").Por Kuhnle, Papayanis, Radke
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On this episode, Lee dives headfirst into distant history to try to put together the puzzle of the Knights Templar. Did they really disappear, or did they take their great wealth and go underground to try to manipulate the world's events from behind the scenes?For more information on the Knights Templar, check out Helen J Nichols' "The Knights Temp…
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On this "Junk Drawer" episode, Lee and Nathan talk about a mob hit from the 1960s that's even shadier and more disturbing than you might think, a scheme to kidnap people and force them to try to scam you over the phone, and the strange story of the brilliant author Philip K. Dick, who maybe tipped a little too far into suspicion and landed in the w…
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Disinformation is widespread in our current media ecosystem, and even if we don't fall for it it can still be hazardous to our health. To find out why this is the case, Lee and Nathan talk to Evan Thornburg: bioethicist, expert in disinformation and public health, and TikTok-facing intellectual.You can find Evan's work on TikTok at "EVN the (Bio) E…
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Lee and Nathan examine the season 3 episode "Jose Chung's From Outer Space" of the classic conspiracy TV show "The X-Files", and use the show to springboard off into a conversation about truth, aliens, hypnosis, abductions, hoaxes, government cover-ups, gorilla suits, and flying saucers. We recommend watching the X-Files episode before listening to…
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What if there was a secret conspiracy to conceal the fact that the American government was making deals with aliens to allow them to abduct people for genetic research? And what if that conspiracy was nothing but a smoke screen to cover up the real conspiracy of a secret cabal working to depopulate the world? This is the story of Bill Cooper, and h…
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In summer of 2023, a former intelligence official named David Grusch testified under oath in a Congressional hearing. In his testimony, he claimed that the American government has recovered crashed extraterrestrial craft, and even has some alien bodies in the freezer. What are we to make of these claims? Lee and Nathan dive into the murky waters to…
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In July 0f 2023, there was a Congressional hearing on UAPs (aka UFOs). Two of the witnesses were Navy pilots who had first-hand encounters with flying objects. Is this the moment we've been waiting for? Is the American government finally taking UFOs seriously? Nathan and Lee examine the testimony and the footage, and look back at the troubling hist…
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We hear dozens of conspiracy theories every week - a few have some truth to them, some are accidental nonsense, and some are deliberate and dangerous lies. How can we sort through all of them? On this episode, Lee and Nathan talk about some of the red flags that they encounter on the regular that make them suspicious that a conspiracy theory might …
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Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin was the first person to escape the Earth's atmosphere into space. In 1968, he was killed in a tragic and suspicious plane crash. Why would the Soviet government have wanted Gagarin dead? And were they somehow responsible for the crash? Lee and Nathan also discuss the tragic Soyuz 1 incident, in case listeners weren't a…
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In 1961, the USSR placed a man named Yuri Gagarin into a tiny capsule on the tip of a massive rocket and shot him into space. This is the story of that moment, and Lee spends the episode teetering back and forth between being inspired by the humanity of the story and being discouraged by the systems and structures the humans are stuck in.For more i…
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Many claims are made about the advanced technology developed by Germany during WWII. Is any of it accurate? Nathan and Lee go back to the 1940s to look at some of the so-called "Wunderwaffen", and Lee has to spend another episode listening to Nathan talk about airplanes. Then, near the end of the episode, there's an alarming revelation about pumpki…
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On this episode, Lee and Nathan open up the junk drawer and pull out segments on an urban legend about Phil Collins* from the 1980s, a recent example of the use of hiphop tracks for state propaganda, and the evil dangers that lurk in Lee's childhood toys.* not the drummer from The PolicePor Kuhnle, Papayanis, Radke
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In the 1970s, ranchers in multiple states found some of their cows dead on the ground, seemingly drained of blood and with strange surgical incisions on the bodies. Who was doing this, and why? Nathan and Lee investigate, come up with a reasonable explanation, and then stumble across a wildly unreasonable truth...…
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What happened to Betty and Barney Hill in the two missing hours between when they left Montreal and when they arrived at home? The story of the Hills is one of the all-time UFO encounter classics, and there are some extremely important lessons to be learned from it. Also, it's interesting.Por Kuhnle, Papayanis, Radke
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How did this happen? 100 episodes of The Uncover Up!?! To get to the bottom of this, Lee and Nathan investigate their own origin stories - young Lee as a seeker looking for spiritual meaning, and young Nathan lost and aimless in an absurd world without any meaning. Also, Nathan gets a tattoo, and a nuclear physicist pops in to say hello.…
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