More than at any time in American history, except perhaps Abe Lincoln’s own, we need his help. Get ready to laugh, learn, and apply the life of this great leader to a modern age with hosts Jonathan Shapiro and actor Greg Grunberg as they discuss pressing topics of today with celebrity guests, and find out what Abe could teach us in this moment. This podcast will show us how to survive our dangerously fractious age, one that is too often unmoored from truth, ignorant of facts, and unwilling to do the hard work of becoming better. It is made for those who don’t just admire Lincoln but want to emulate his rational, practical approach to law, love, leadership, and life. It identifies the seven steps that made Abe Lincoln legendary and teaches you how to follow them. This show is part history and biography, part philosophy, part memoir, part James Spader rant, and like Lincoln himself, a true original.