A podcast for industrial-organizational psychologists, researchers, practitioners, and students. We cover anything and everything related to the research and practice of IO psych.
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Stephanie Murphy on the Society for People Analytics
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14:09In this episode, host Ben Butina speaks with Stephanie Murphy, Ph.D., about her journey into people analytics and the rapid growth of her new organization, the Society for People Analytics. Stephanie shares how a simple meet-up with colleagues evolved into an international movement uniting people analytics professionals across diverse backgrounds, …
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Wes Johnson Tells a Tale of Two Water Parks
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12:20In this episode of the Department 12 Podcast, host Dr. Ben Butina speaks with Wes Johnson, a graduate student at Montclair State University, about his diverse work experiences at water parks during high school and college. Wes shares the contrasts between his engaging high school job and the less motivating college job, highlighting the significant…
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Krystina Moustakis on Communicating with Decision-Makers as a Consultant
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10:35In this episode of the Department 12 Podcast, I’m joined by Krystina Moustakis, a learning experience designer and organizational psychologist with a knack for creating impactful training programs that align with business metrics. We dive into the art of consulting, particularly how to effectively communicate with executives and business leaders—a …
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Ian Siderits on Mentoring from the Protege's Perspective
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14:53In this episode of the Department 12 Podcast, Dr. Ben Butina talks with Ian Siderits, a Ph.D. candidate at North Carolina State University, about mentorship from the perspective of a mentee. Ian discusses his entry into the field of I-O psychology, influenced significantly by his mentors, starting with Dr. Tara Behrend during his undergraduate stud…
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Ellie Hoekman on Career Coaching for I-O Psychologists
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11:34In this episode of Department 12, I sit down with the Ellie Hoekman, an I-O Psychology enthusiast turned career coach, to explore the paths that lead Ellie from a rejected quantitative psychology applicant to a fervent advocate and professional in the I-O psychology space. Ellie also shares her advice for I-O students, recent graduates, and faculty…
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In this episode, Ben speaks to Richard Mendelson, Ph.D. about a range of topics, including Rich's work as an expert legal witness and consultant in school violence cases. The heart of the episode is a discussion about the relationship between time-tracking and productivity. The conversation also touches on the impacts of remote work and the gig eco…
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A few years ago, I talked to Shavonne Holman and Macy Cheeks about an organization they had founded: Blacks in I/O Psychology. Since then, the organization has gone from strength to strength, and, on February 22-23, 2024, BIOP will hold its Inaugural Conference & Gala in Atlanta. Register before the end of the year for an early-bird discount.…
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Victoria Mattingly on Moving From Tolerance to Allophilia
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39:01Dr. Victoria Mattingly joins Dr. Ben Butina to discuss diversity, equity and inclusion in the workplace. She shares her expertise from publishing the book Inclusivelytics and running her consulting firm. Dr. Victoria opens up about battling cancer this year and how it differed from facing depression. The conversation covers how to build genuine inc…
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Carol Kulik on HR for the Non-HR Manager
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15:16In this episode of Department 12, Dr. Ben Butina interviews Professor Carol Kulik, co-author of the book Human Resources for the Non-HR Manager. Dr. Kulik discusses the importance of HR for all managers, even those who don't have a formal HR role. She also talks about the importance of making HR research accessible and applicable to everyday practi…
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Henri Maindidze on Mentoring as a Grad Student
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28:16Dr. Ben Butina interviews Henri Maindidze, a third-year graduate student in I/O psychology at Portland State University. Henry discusses his experiences with mentoring undergraduate students and how he helps them navigate the challenges of graduate school. He shares some of the most common questions he receives from mentees, such as how to manage t…
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Rachel Baghelai on Research in a Consulting Firm
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42:57Join Dr. Ben Butina in this enlightening episode of Department 12 as he engages in a compelling conversation with Dr. Rachel Baghelai. Dr. Baghelai recounts her unconventional journey into the world of Industrial-Organizational (IO) psychology, transitioning from banking to pursuing a graduate program at Elmhurst University. Delving into her evolut…
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Trevor Nagle is a working actor with more than 40 speaking roles in movies, TV shows, and live theater to his credit. He also does voiceover work and industrial films. In this episode, I talk to Trevor about what a day on set is really like, the unique challenges of auditions, and what separates successful working actors from those who drop out. Th…
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Andrew Holter on When the Data Doesn't Fit
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17:56In this episode, Dr. Ben Butina interviews Dr. Andrew Holter about the surprising findings in his recently defended dissertation on whether self-efficacy, grit, and job satisfaction predict turnover intention among new registered nurses. Dr. Holter also discusses his background in public safety and how IO psychology is applicable in his role as a f…
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Logan Watts on the Side Effects of I-O Interventions
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15:39Dr. Ben Butina interviews Dr. Logan Watts, Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Texas at Arlington, about his background and research. They discuss the concept of “side effects” in organizational interventions, which are unintended negative consequences that may occur as a result of a treatment or intervention. They also explore t…
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Are there reliable differences between generations? Should business and HR leaders make decisions based on generational differences? Why are generations so popular on social media and in the popular business press? Are generations even a thing? In this episode, I interrogate Dr. David Costanza, Director of the I/O Psych Doctoral program at George W…
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Raúl Alejandro Espino on I-O Psych in the Spanish-Speaking World
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30:47Raul Alejandro Espino joins us to share his observations about I-O psych in Central America, South America, and Spain. Be sure to visit the episode page for a full transcript.
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Let's face it. We've got a bad name. In this episode, I make the case against the name "industrial and organizational psychology," consider some of the alternatives, and offer up my own suggestion for a new name. I'd love to hear your opinion about this one, so please hit me up on Twitter, LinkedIn, or email to share your perspective. Be sure to ch…
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Dr. Marcus Crede has been threatened, legally and physically. His crime? Pointing out problems in published research. Lack of pre-registration, lack of power analysis, obvious calculation errors, impossible statistical results...authors, editors, peer-reviewers and readers are not doing so well. What is happening and what can we do about it? Check …
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Matthews, Pineault, & Hong on Single-Item Measures
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8:31Can you validly and reliably measure a construct with just a single item? If so, what does that mean for academics and practitioners? In this episode, Dr. Russell Matthews (University of Alabama), Laura Pineault (Wayne State University), and Yeong-Hyun Hong (University of Alabama), join me to talk about their new paper, Normalizing the Use of Singl…
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Gordon Schmidt & Sy Islam on Leadership in the Marvel Cinematic Universe
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30:15What can we learn about leadership from the Marvel Cinematic Universe? An awful lot, if our guides are Dr. Gordon B Schmidt and Dr. Sy Islam. In this episode, I talk to Gordon and Sy about how they first got interested in Marvel, why the MCU is such a great setting for exploring leadership practices, and how they worked together to create Leaders A…
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Marc Effron Shares a Practitioner's Wishlist for I-O Research
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20:45How do practitioners learn about our research? What topics and questions do they wish we would research? How can we communicate our research more effectively? In this episode, I speak to Marc Effron, talent management consultant and author of One Page Talent Management about these questions and many more. Check out the episode page for Marc's bio, …
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Robert Romano on Applying to Grad School
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17:04Robert has questions and I don't have the answers. But maybe you do. Robert is a junior at Marist College, majoring in psychology, and he plans to apply to grad schools in I-O psych after graduation. He has a lot of questions about the search and admission process that I am not equipped to answer. But you, my dear audience, have a wealth of experie…
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Sy Islam and Gordon Schmidt on Debunking and Testing Business Practices
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30:04Should we should spend less time testing our own theories and more time testing business practices as they're actually implemented in organizations? Can I-O psychologists improve Lean Management? What's the difference between testing and debunking? All this, and more, in my interview with Dr. Sy Islam (Talent Metrics Consulting, Farmingdale State C…
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Mike Urick on A Manager's Guide to Using the Force
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15:56Mike Urick, Ph.D. is an Assistant Professor of Management and Operational Excellence and the Graduate Director of the Master of Science in Management program at the Alex G. McKenna School of Business, Economics and Government at Saint Vincent College in Latrobe, PA. In this episode I talk to Mike about his new book, A Manager's Guide to Using the F…
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Cynthia DeVita-Cochrane on Being a Business Resiliency Counselor
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19:46In our frustrating and never-ending quest to explain what I-O psychology is, we could always say, at least, "No, we don't do counseling." Today's guest is taking that away from us, too. Cynthia DeVita-Cochrane joins us from the frontier of I-O psychology as she shares her experience as a business resiliency counselor. Along the way, we learn why me…
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David Copeland on Success as a Psychology Major
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6:19David Copeland, Ph.D. is an Associate Professor of Psychology at UNLV. In this episode, he joins us to talk about his book, Success as a Psychology Major, which he co-wrote with Jeremy Ashton Houska. In addition to the book, we talk about the growing popularity of "Introduction to the Psychology Major" courses, which help psych majors explore speci…
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Macy Cheeks & Shavonne Holman on Blacks in I/O
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17:18What's it like to be Black in I-O psychology? When Shavonne Holman and Macy Cheeks graduated from Howard University—the country's most prestigious historically black university—and entered graduate programs in I-O psych, they weren't prepared for how alone and isolated they'd feel. Over dinner and drinks, they talked about forming a LinkedIn group …
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Sherif al-Qallawi on the Journey to I-O Psych
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19:30In our final episode with Sherif al-Qallawi (Twitter, LinkedIn), Sherif reflects on his long and winding journey to I-O psych. We'll travel from pharmaceuticals to the United Nations, by way of a coin flip. Be sure to check out If Only I Had Known Back Then on the GIT SIOP blog and tell your psych instructor friends about www.teachiopsych.com. And …
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Sherif al-Qallawi on Egyptian Work Culture
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9:36I-O psychology is WEIRD: Most of our research is conducted with samples of Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, and Democratic societies. How confident can we be that our evidence generalizes to non-WEIRD workplaces around the world? To gain some insight on that question, I asked our friend Sherif al-Qallawi (Twitter, LinkedIn) to talk about th…
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Sherif al-Qallawi on the Fulbright Scholarship
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4:10Sherif al-Qallawi (Twitter, LinkedIn) is a PhD candidate at Florida Tech. In this episode, Sherif explains what the Fulbright Scholarship is and how it can change the lives and work of IO psych grads and graduate students. Be sure to check out the episode page for a full transcript.
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Let's talk about qualitative research in IO psych. What is it? What kinds of research questions can you ask with it? What are the methods like? How can you get started? In this episode, I'm joined by Julia McMenamin (Twitter), Dr. Jennifer Pickett (Twitter), Dr. Deborah DiazGranados (Twitter), and Dr. Scott Davies (Twitter). Be sure to check out th…
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Why I Became an IO Psychologist: Scott Davies
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2:00I've got a great episode on qualitative research in IO psychology coming up. In the meantime, here's a brief clip from one of the guests on that show, Dr. Scott Davies of PointLeader Predictive Analytics. Be sure to check out the episode page for a transcript and more links.
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Kyana Beckles on Pre-Employment Testing for Law Enforcement
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35:42Kyana Beckles, Founder and CEO of Leverage Assessments, Inc. based in New York City, discusses pre-employment testing processes for law enforcement. Kyana works with the NYPD and has a wealth of practical experience and insights on how IO can help address recent challenges with law enforcement. She also shares her perspective on the "Defund the Pol…
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Daniel Maday on Digitizing Your Classroom
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14:31Hello, friends. Are you teaching a class this fall? Are you teaching it online or in some hybrid format? Then today's guest has some advice for you. Take a deep breath. It's going to be okay. Better than okay, even. Take a listen to Daniel Maday. He has some good advice for you. Oh, and be sure to check out this episode's page for a transcript and …
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Alexander Schwall on Behaviors & Performance During COVID-19
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30:36Everyone is speculating about how COVID-19 has changed work, but in this episode, I speak to a man who has more than an opinion: he has data. Dr. Alexander Schwall, Chief Scientist and Co-Founder of Rhabit Analytics, joins me to discuss what's changed for employees--and what hasn't--since COVID-19. Are employees more or less concerned about pay? Wo…
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Gudela Grote on the Alliance for Organizational Psychology
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11:13Gudela Grote is a past president of the European Association of Work and Organizational Psychology (EAWOP) and the current president of the Alliance for Organizational Psychology (AOP). In this episode, we talk about the mission of the AOP and the importance of global collaboration among work and organizational psychologists and practitioners. Visi…
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Ali Salihoglu is starting a podcast for the Hofstra IO Psych Student Association and he's got questions! If you're thinking about starting an IO psych podcast of your own, this is definitely the episode for you. We talk equipment, marketing, show length, and a lot more.
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What's more grueling, writing a dissertation or running for President? What the are KSAs for a national political candidate? How is campaigning for a third party like teaching and consulting? How is managing a political campaign different from managing a company? In this episode, I talk to Dr. Jo Jorgensen, the Libertarian Party candidate for Presi…
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Lisa Kath on Moving from Organic Chemistry to IO Psychology
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10:27Lisa Kath used to be a chemist. Now she's an IO psychologist. What the hell happened? In this episode, I talk to Lisa about her career transition, how she found out about IO psych to begin with, and what she misses about chemistry. Follow Lisa on Twitter. (Pssst...she's also the ringmaster behind I-O Psych Memes on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.…
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Chris Mackey on Gaming Leadership Development
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12:32Well, folks, this COVID-19 business is messing up a lot of plans, including Chrissy Mackey's dissertation research plan! In this episode, Chrissy joins me to talk about how she's pivoted so she can move forward with her original research on the use of Dungeons and Dragons for leadership development. I've never played D&D, so I asked Chrissy to walk…
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Katrina Burch, an Assistant Professor of IO Psych at Western Kentucky University, joins us to talk about the open road. Or subway. Or whatever. Is commuting a transition or a life domain in its own right? How does work spill over into the commute? Why is it so hard to get good commuting data? What about people who really enjoy their long commutes? …
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Stefanie Mockler on Coaching Leaders During COVID-19
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15:56Stefanie Mockler joins the show to talk about her work coaching leaders during the COVID-19 pandemic. We talk about information and decision overload, isolation, communication, and how our send of professionalism may be changing. Connect with Stefanie on LinkedIn Read Stefanie's article, Playbook For Leaders: Checking in on Employees, Maintaining P…
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Juliet Aiken on How IO Can Help in the Wake of COVID-19
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20:07In this episode, I meet Dr. Juliet Aiken, winner of this year's Distinguished Early Career Contributions-Practice Award from SIOP. Juliet is also the founder and program director of the Master's program in IO at the University of Maryland. I talk to Juliet about how we can reach outside of our usual areas of practice to help in the wake of COVID-19…
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Sara Perry on Remote Work During the COVID-19 Pandemic
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16:42Tonight I'm joined by Sara Perry, Assistant Professor of Management at Baylor University, to talk about the great and terrible experiment in remote work that many American workers are now experiencing. What, if anything, does the research have to tell us about implementing remote work programs under conditions like these? What can we learn from exp…
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Let's meet Aaron Halliday, IO psychologist and data scientist. How did he end up in both worlds? What can IO psych offer data science and vice versa? How can an IO psych nerd go about learning more about all this stuff? You can connect with Aaron on LinkedIn and learn more about his startup, Trust Included. To see the complete list of links from th…
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Cody Cox & Greg Pool on Mixing Academia & Consulting
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13:55Listener Lindsey Lane asks, "...for a long time I have heard of people combining consulting and academia into one career (i.e., professors that consult on the side). Does this really happen?" Yes, L3, after a long day of teachin', researchin', publishin', and committee chairin', some profs unwind by pouring themselves a tall, frosty glass of consul…
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Coaching "Jeff" at a Career Crossroads
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33:35In this episode, I coach "Jeff" (not his real name) who is struggling with a career decision. He's finishing up a Master's in IO Psych and an MBA and he can't decide whether to pursue a PhD or jump right into the workforce. This isn't scripted or rehearsed--we're really talking for the first time on the air. I make some mistakes, but I wanted to sh…
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Mindy Shoss Tells the Story of a Publication
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18:03Where do researchers get ideas for new studies? How do multiple co-authors work together on a single paper? How should we deal with rejection? In this episode, Mindy Shoss, Ph.D., an Associate Professor at the University of Central Florida, gives us a behind-the-scenes look at a paper she recently published along with Bradley Brummel, Tahira Probst…
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Treat Yourself Holiday Gorging Triple Scoop
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3:41Do you like Department 12 but wish it was, you know, a little less boring? Then check out The I/O Soapbox, a YouTube video series that talks about I/O stuff in entertaining and clever ways. (You know, if you're into that sort of thing.) Can gathering the predictions of other researchers, policy-makers, and ordinary people improve social science res…
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A warm welcome to Stefanie Mockler, a doctoral candidate at DePaul University. Stefanie is a leadership consultant, executive coach, and Head of Insights at Vantage Leadership Consulting. She's also the founder and owner at The Female Leader's Edge, where she coaches women leaders to overcome organizational barriers and reach their goals. What is c…
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