In this episode Eric Bond and Patrick Lafontaine joins us to talk about the life in industry vs the life in academia. Eric is a PhD student at Michigan University under Max New, he works with some pretty cool esoteric cubical agda stuff. Before starting his PhD he has spent some time at the consultancy companies Two Six Technologies and 47 Degrees …

In this episode we talk with Fabrizio Montesi, a Full Professor at the University of South Denmark. He is one of the creators of the Jolie Programming Language, President of the Microservices Community and Author of the book 'Introduction to Choreographies'. In today’s episode we talk about the formal side of Distributed Sytems, session types, the …

Satnam Singh has got incredible experience in both academia and industry. He has worked in Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Microsoft Research, Xilinx, etc. He has been a lecturer in Glasgow, Birmingham and University of California for a couple of years. He has worked with many interesting tools such Coq, Haskell, Verilog, Tensorflow. These days he wor…

In this episode we go into a deep dive into the formal methods side of Voting systems, and for this nobody better than our guest: Joe Kiniry, A Principal Scientist at Galois, Principled CEO and Chief Scientist of Free & Fair, a Galois spin-out focused on high-assurance elections technologies and services. For the past 20 years Joe has worked tirele…

In this episode we continue our conversation with David Christiansen, he wrote the books Functional Programming in Lean and the Little Typer. He has also worked as the Executive Director of the Haskell Foundation, at Galois and did his PhD developing a bunch of cool stuff for Idris. In today’s episode we talk about the story behind writing The Litt…

In this episode we talk with David Christiansen, he wrote the books Functional Programming in Lean and the Little Typer. He has also worked as the Executive Director of the Haskell Foundation, at Galois and did his PhD developing a bunch of cool stuff for Idris. David is a super upbeat person and I feel that we could spend hundreds of hours talking…

In this episode we talk with Guannan Wei, from Purdue University. Guannanfinished his PhD last year under Tiark Rompf, and is currently doing hisPost-Doc with Tiark. Guannan has worked on a plethora of differentcompilers topics, and in this conversation we will talk about Staging,Futamura Projections, Symbolic Execution, Compiler Applications in Sm…

In this episode we celebrate 3 years of existence of this podcast byreflecting on the journey so far, what is my philosophy, how do Iapproach the interviews, my overall goals for the show, and some of our plansfor the future. In order to achieve this, I first take a detour and tell you a little moreabout my personal history, and my carreer in type …

In this episode we talk with Eduardo Rafael. He isself-thaught programming languages enthusiast, youtuber, twitch streamer,multi-skilled programmer that has worked in different aspects of computerscience such as PL, operating systems, blockchain, and many other stuff. Inthis conversation we talk about his experience as a developer and hacker thatdi…

Andrew Marmaduke is a PhD Candidate from the University of Iowa, he worksunder Aaron Stump and has been working on revamping the theorem proverCedille 2. In this episode we tackle fundamental questions about thefoundations of the theorem provers, Cedille and Cedille 2. Links Andrew's Website AndrasKovacs' Smalltt Failure of Normalization in Impredi…

Not satisfied with implementing one of the most popular automated theoremprovers, Z3, Leo de Moura also tackles another extremely hard problem inour field and implements a brand new interactivetheorem prover from scratch, Lean. In this episode we dive into the mind andphilosophy of this man. Links Leo's Website Lean Z3 The Church of Logic Podcast…

In this episode we continue our conversation with Jan de Muijnck-Hughes aResearch Associate at Glasgow University. He works using all sorts of fancytype systems mostly targeted for hardware specification, particularly withthe aid of the theorem prover Idris. This episode we start by talking alittle about Impostor Syndrome in academia and how he has…

In this episode we have a deep conversation with Jan de Muijnck-Hughes, talksabout all the cool research he has done with idris, hardware and different kindsof interesting type systems such as session types, quantitative types and gradedtypes. In the second half we discuss all the different kinds of problems thathas been going on in PL academia lat…

In this episode we have over Dan Plyukhin, a PhD Candidate fromthe University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. We talk about Dan’s research is in the field of parallelism, morespecifically garbage collection in the presence of actors. Then we also talk about Pedro's research on translating GADTs from OCaml to Coq,and the burnout process that lead him …

Jimmy Koppel, got his PhD at MIT and found the Mirdin Company, where heteaches engineers to write better code! In this interview we talk about howto make better code, how the knowledge of computer science theory andprogramming languages can help engineers to achieve that, and much more! Links Jimmy's Personal Website Jimmy's Twitter Mirdin's Websit…

In this episode we host another company that does formal method in thecontext of the Everscale Blockchain, and Solidity smart contracts.How and why they use formal methods in this context? Who are their clients?What are the caveats? Links Pruvendo's Website Pruvendo's Linkdin Pruvendo's TwitterPor Pedro Abreu

In this episode talk with Gerwin Klein about the formal verification of themicrokernel seL4 which was done using Isabelle atNICTA / Data61 in Australia. We also talk a little about his PhD Projectveryfing a piece of the Java Virtual Machine. Links Gerwin's Twitter Gerwin's Website ProofCraft's Website…

Kevin Buzzard has been very passionate spreading the word amongmathematicians to use theorem provers mechanize theorems of modernmathematics. In this conversation we will talk about his vision in teachingundergrads to use the Lean theorem prover, what is the Xena Project, his viewof how theorem provers can change the way we do mathematics, and much…

In this episode we partner with Formal Land, a company that works in formallyverifying the Tezos codebase! I have worked with them in the past developingnew features to their source-to-source compiler CoqOfOcaml. In this episode wetalk about their work with Tezos and how their techniques are applicable toother codebases as well! For this we talk wi…

In this episode we interview Lawrence Paulson, one of the creating fathers ofIsabelle. We talk about the development process, how it drew inspirations andideas from LCF and Boyer Moore. What tools were used, it’s strenghts andweaknesses, and all about the historical context at the time! We also brieflytalk about his formalization of the Gödel's Inc…

In this episode we talk about Sigplan, the organization behind the mostimportant conferences and proceedings in our field. What is the SIGPLAN? Whatexactly does it do? How is it organized? How are things published? To answerthese and many other questions we talk with Jens Palsberg, a professor atUCLA, who is the past chair of the SIGPLAN. And also …

In this episode Cody Roux teaches some interesting concepts that people careabout in Mathematics and Logic as a way to try to understand what is going onin the universe around us! In particular we will try to explain concepts suchas Impredicativity, Excluded Middle, Group Theory, Model Theory, KripkeModels, Realizability, The Markov Principle, Cut …

In this episode Conal Elliott gives a more concrete presentationon what is Denotational Design is and how to use it in practice. It is a continuation of episode #17, in which we had an in-depth philosophicalconversation to explain why he believes thatDenotational Design is a superior form of reasoning in the realm of computerscience. We also contin…

In this episode, me and Eric Bond have a great conversation with Dan R.Ghica, a professor at Birmingham University and Director of the ProgrammingLanguage Research Lab of the Huaweii Research Centre Edinburgh.We talk about his work on both institutions, which includes topics such asCategory Theory, String Diagrams, and Game Semantics.We also briefl…

In today’s episode I invite two friends of mine Patrick Lafontaine and SupunAbeysinghe. We will talk about their experience learning Coq and we guideourselves in a survey that I gave all the 83 students in the class.The class was thought by my advisor Benjamin Delaware and I was his TA. Patrick researches compilers and have done work in particular …

In this episode Cody Roux talks about the Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems. We gothrough it’s underlying historical context, Hilbert’s Program, how it relateswith Turing, Church, Von Neumann, Termination and more. Links Cody's website Cody's dblp The Lady or the Tiger? - Short Story The Lady or the Tiger? - Amazon Logicomix An Introduction to Gödel'…

In this episode I had the pleasure to have an in-depth conversation with ConalElliott about his life, his work, his philosophy and his many opinions aboutresearch and the current state of PL Research and how it lead him to come withthe concept of Denotational Design. Conal got his PhD at CMU in the 90s underFrank Pfenning working on Higher-Order Un…

In this episode we interview Jesper Cockx, one of the core developers on Agda.We talk about the philosophy behind Agda, his work on pattern matching, theUniqueness of Identity of Proofs, UIP for short, and why it is inconsistentwith Homotopy Type Theory. Links Jesper's Website Jesper's Twitter: @agdakx Jesper's PhD Thesis Rewrite Theory paper Patte…

In this episode me, Eric and Nitin continues our conversation started in thelast episode. This time we move our attention to the cool projects happeningin Coq, in particular commenting through the projects mentioned in AndrewAppel’s keynote “Coq’s Vibrant Ecosystem for verification engineering” thattook place in CPP’22 which is colocated with POPL …

In this episode I gather with two good friends Eric and Nitin to randomly talk random subjects that pops up. Among them we talked about POPL, Scala, Isabelle, Parametricity, Dependent Object Types (DOT, for short) and more! Links Nitin Twitter @NitinJohnRaj2 Eric Twitter @EricBond10 Collection of links on logical relations Theorems for Free Reynold…

This episode is about the journey of a programmer that converted himself intoa Haskell developer after working with C/C++ for more than 10years. Here are a few questions that you'll find the answer to in this episode: What does he find so compelling about Haskell? Why did it make him dive deeper into the Theoretical Computer Science? Why did it mak…

Talia Ringer is an Assistant Professor at University of IllinoisUrbana-Champaign. She did her PhD at University of Washington with her thesison Proof Repair. She’s very active on twitter @taliaringer. And in this episode we will talkabout her transition from PhD to Professor, her work on diversity, her ADHD andhow it has affected her career so far,…

In this episode we have talk with Alejandro Serrano Mena, heworks on 47 degrees and is a published author of two books about Haskell: TheBook of Monads and Practical Haskell. We talk about many interesting features behind functionalprogramming such as adts, pattern matching, impredicativity, monads, effects,hacking the ghc and how all this comes to…

In this episode we host a discussion between Anupam Das and ThorstenAltenkirch on the role of constructivism in mathematics, logic and computerscience. Anupam is a lecturer in the University of Birmingham in the UK, and ThorstenAltenkirch is a CS Professor at the University of Nottingham. We discuss why constructive content in proofs matters, the l…

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In this episode I have a nice conversation with Chris Jenkins to talk aboutthe Cedille theorem prover, based on a very concise type theory called CDLE.The main selling point of Cedille is that the theory is so small that thetyping rules fit one page. And yet it is strong enough to do relevant theoremproving. This is probably the most technical epis…

In this episode we dive into Isabelle, the interactive theorem prover based on Higher Order Logic directly from someone who spent quite some time hacking on its internals. Me and Daniel also talk about Mizar, Isar, the seL4, and how it is formalized. Torwards the end of the episode we also talk a little about his current work on the binary analysis…

In this episode we interview Zeina Migeed, a PhD Student at University ofCalifornia Los Angeles, advised by Prof. Jens Palsberg She Researches Gradual Types and had a paper published at POPL'20 named "What isDecidable about Gradual Types". here is a link to it As the name of the episode suggests, I'll be asking her all the dumb questionsrelated to …

In this episode we interview Yves Bertot and we talk about the history behind his contribution with Pierre Castéran on writing Coq’Art. What is Yves’ role in the Coq Team, how the team works and what are the sort of contributions they accept. Links: Yves email: yves.bertot@inria.fr Affichage et manipulation interactive de formules mathématiques dan…

In this episode we host Eric Bond to go through some real cool projects happening in the PL World and some of the companies behind them. We discuss some technical differences between the major interactive theorem provers out there, some of their most popular projects, and a few companies that work in the realm. Eric Bond works at 47 degrees, a cons…

In this episode we host Dan Zheng, an alumni of Purdue University that now works at Google at real cool projects that relates ML and PL. We chat about how was his transition from undergrad to such a huge company like Google. We talk about cool languages such as Lantern, LLVM, LMS, Julia, Rust, Racket, Scala. How does ML and PL can be used to enhanc…

In this episode we host Rajan Walia and John Sarracino. Rajan is a last year PhD Student from Indiana University, working under Sam Tobin-Hochstadt. And John is a Postdoc working with Greg Morriset at Cornell University. We talk about Grad School life, how academia life looks like, pressure to publish, work-life balance, industry vs academia, and m…

La Declaración de Independencia fue el primer documento importante de los Nuevos Estados Unidos Americanos.Fue un documento que sirvió para varios propósitos, para empezar enumeraba las razones por las que las 13 colonias se rebelaron contra el Imperio Británico. También fue una declaración para el mundo. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcas…

First episode of the America on Trial series I hope you enjoy and I apologize for the delay, this episode we go over what led to the American Revolutionary War up to the moment the Declaration was drafted and signed by Congress. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/outsiderperspective/messageSupport this podcast: htt…

Esta es una introducción de mi nuevo podcast en español. sobre la nueva temporada de America on Trial una historia de Estados Unidos. Y otros temas que se discutirán en el futuro --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/outsiderperspective/messageSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/outsiderpersp…

In this episode we host Prof. Benjamin Delaware from Purdue University to discuss and try to answer some basic questions related to PL research: What is PL research? Why does it matter? Why is it cool? What is Lambda Calculus? What is Type Theory? Church-Turing Thesis? Curry-Howard Correspondence? What are proof assistants? Why are they cool? Don’t…

To understand the political climate we are experiencing today we simply have to look back at our past. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/outsiderperspective/messageSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/outsiderperspective/support

Who is Pedro Abreu? What is the goal of this Podcast? What are My Research Interests? In this episode I share about my internship experiences at Nicta (data61 now), Sifive, Galois and Nomadic Labs. Welcome! Don’t forget to checkout Galois’ new podcast hosted by Joey Dodds and Shpat Morina. Click Here…