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The Apostle Paul regularly wrote to help leaders with the issues they were facing in the early church. While pastors will always face obstacles, we can learn from one another and help each other connect God's grace and governance to the practical challenges of ministry work. In this podcast, John Bailey leads regular discussions with fellow church leaders in order to educate, equip and encourage those who serve and lead the church.
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We work with Jesus for the revitalization and health of His church. Therefore, we provide practical encouragement and help for senior or lead Pastors. By strengthening pastors, the church will also be strengthened. Interviews with seasoned and tried pastoral leaders re: subjects that will edify current senior/lead pastors of churches. Support this podcast: https://give.cornerstone.cc/poimenministries 1. Select the amount you'd like to donate. 2. Select how often you'd like to donate (one tim ...
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Jerome Vierling is lead pastor and founder of City Life Church in Lansing, Michigan. Also a hip hop artist, Jerome shares how he’s integrated his creative passions with faithful leadership. He emphasizes the importance of staying true to yourself and being close to God and others. Links & Episode Notes Jerome Vierling City Life Church Pickney, Mich…
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Comments? Questions? Send us a message! Richard Clinton is passionate with regard to helping Christian leaders—particularly pastors—finish well. Richard pastored 5 churches during the course of his 40-year pastoral ministry, and also served with his father, Dr. J. Robert Clinton, in the field of Christian leadership studies and training. The book T…
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Naeem Fazal is the founding and lead pastor of Mosaic Church in Charlotte, North Carolina. In this conversation he shares about a supernatural encounter with Jesus at 18 years old that led him to leave his Muslim faith behind, become a Christian, and eventually start Mosaic Church. Links & Episode Notes Naeem Fazal Ex-Muslim: How One Daring Prayer …
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Comments? Questions? Send us a message! Podcast Episode 161 Introduction We love to hear pastors tell their own stories, and provide wisdom to others that they've gleaned and that has grown in them over their years of service. Today we have with us pastor Rich Lammay, who has been a senior/lead pastor for 32+ years in the relatively small town of G…
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Lungz Makaula is the Founder and Lead Pastor of SOZO City Church in Chicago, Illinois. He shares his global journey from growing up in South Africa to Hillsong Australia and then on to the United States, emphasizing that each of life’s decisions is a step, not the final destination. Links & Episode Notes Lungz Makaula (Instagram) SOZO City Church A…
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Dennis Neckel, production manager at the Gateway Center of the Holland Rescue Mission, shares his journey from prison to leadership, highlighting all the people who took a risk on him and his transformation from brokenness to new life. Links & Episode Notes Gateway Mission Kuyper College 70x7 Life Recovery Youth for Christ Biggby Coffee Pat Benatar…
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In this eye-opening episode, Pastor John Bailey and Zach Meerkreebs dive deep into the heart of spiritual awakening. Fresh from the Asbury revival, Zach shares raw insights on what it truly takes to see God move in our generation. Forget church growth strategies and platform building—this conversation gets real about emptying ourselves, embracing h…
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Comments? Questions? Send us a message! Welcome to Strength for Today’s Pastor, episode 160. Our hope and goal is to provide encouragement, sometimes instruction, and sometimes ministry tools to current pastors and leaders, that the churches they serve might also be encouraged, strengthened, and equipped. To that end, today we have with us Pastor J…
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Katherine Wolf survived a massive stroke at age 26, and in this episode she shares her inspiring story of suffering, faith, and hope. Katherine tells the story of Hope Heals, the non-profit organization she started with husband Jay in the aftermath of her health scare, and she also dispels the myth that joy can only be found in a pain-free life. Li…
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In this powerful episode of the Leader to Leader podcast, Zach Meerkreebs, a key leader in the Asbury Revival, shares his personal testimony and insights on the spiritual awakening that swept through the university. He discusses the importance of cultivating authentic, Christ-centered spaces where people can encounter Jesus in a transformative way.…
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Gary Thomas is a renowned author with a passion for helping people grow closer to Jesus and others, having written over 20 books. In this episode, he and Brian discuss books like “Sacred Marriage” and “When to Walk Away,“ which emphasizes the importance of recognizing toxic relationships and the biblical basis for simply walking away. Links & Episo…
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In this thought-provoking podcast episode, host John Bailey and guest Matt Brown dive into the complexities of using social media for Christian ministry. They explore the potential pitfalls leaders face, such as the temptation to focus on likes and followers rather than faithfulness to God's calling. Matt shares personal stories and practical tips …
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Comments? Questions? Send us a message! If we pastors don't know what we're aiming at, we'll never hit the target. It's essential to have the right target, and there's no question that the Biblical target is to equip saints unto spiritual maturity and spiritual fruitfulness. Join Bill Holdridge and Pastor Matt Valencia as they put skin on this topi…
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Online entrepreneur and group fitness expert Lindsey Bomgren joins to talk about Nourish Move Love, her website offering free workouts for busy women. She and Brian talk about the importance of approaching work from a place of rest and faith, aiming to inspire others, and building a strong Nourish Move Love community. Lindsey also shares her team’s…
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Join Pastor John Bailey and special guest Matt Brown from Think Eternity as they explore the dynamic intersection of faith and technology. This podcast delves into effective strategies for using social media and digital platforms to spread the gospel, engage with communities, and navigate the challenges of online ministry. Whether you're a pastor, …
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Justin Mack is the missions pastor from River Valley Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He and Brian talk about the path to founding Project42, an organization dedicated to reaching people who’ve never heard the good news of Jesus. Justin shares about the faith and finances it took to start Project42, as well as practical ideas for managing big thin…
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Pastor John Bailey welcomes special guest Tony Amaradio to discuss how Christians can maximize their resources for the Kingdom of God. Tony shares his journey from focusing on acquiring personal wealth to using his financial expertise to advance ministries. They explore the biblical basis for stewardship and its eternal significance. Tony offers in…
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Frank Weisser, former Blue Angel and Navy combat pilot who flew stunts for Top Gun Maverick, joins Brian in the studio for this bonus episode. They talk about focusing on what matters most, developing trust and valuing different perspectives on a team, and finding purpose and direction for each phase of life. Links & Episode Notes Made to Advance, …
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From the Engedi Church Men’s Conference in February 2024: U.S. Navy Blue Angel and Top Gun: Maverick stunt pilot Frank Weisser joins Brian to share his story. From perilous flights over Afghanistan to flying with Tom Cruise, Frank shares his wisdom on faith, failure, and fighting through adversity. Links & Episode Notes U.S. Navy CDR Frank Weisser …
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In this follow-up episode, pastors John Bailey and Lee Shipp continue their discussion on the transformative power of God's grace. They explore how a proper understanding of grace leads to a genuine pursuit of holiness, not through legalistic means, but through the empowering work of the Holy Spirit. Discover how the gospel message encompasses both…
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Shaun Page shares his journey from beating leukemia to becoming a Chick-fil-A owner-operator in Holland, Michigan. He talks about the entrepreneurial aspects of running a Chick-fil-A and what it’s like to partner with the Chick-fil-A corporate team. Shaun discusses the significance of building and leading a team, solving problems, and the secrets t…
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Discover how Pastor Lee Shipp transitioned from a legalistic understanding of faith to embracing the fullness of God's grace. This episode explores the transformative power of realizing that salvation and sanctification are through faith alone, leading to a church revitalized by love, joy, and freedom in Christ. View Podcast Show Notes: https://wcm…
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Church planter, lead pastor, author, and entrepreneur Troy Evans joins to discuss his background, including his childhood in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and his journey in ministry. Troy emphasizes the importance of church multiplication and encourages young leaders to take steps towards planting churches in urban contexts. Links & Episode Notes Troy E…
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Explore the nuances of fostering a forgiving congregation with Pastor John Bailey and Kevin Ramsby. This episode unpacks the complexities of forgiveness within church dynamics, addressing common challenges like unresolved personal grievances and the pathway to creating a church known not just for being forgiven, but for actively forgiving. View pod…
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Pastor and Winning at Home founder Dan Seaborn joins to share about his long history of ministry, his growth in faithfulness, and his emphasis on finding value and identity in Jesus rather than performance. Dan also encourages us about the importance of slowing down, listening, and making Jesus the central focus in life for true contentment and sat…
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Biblical scholar, author, and podcaster Preston Sprinkle joins to discuss how to engage in difficult conversations with charity and grace, especially in the context of challenging issues like faith, sexuality, and gender. Did we mention it’s an election year? Links & Episode Notes Preston Sprinkle Theology in the Raw podcast The Center for Faith, S…
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As church leaders, how do we build healthy culture within our communities and, even more importantly, within our leadership teams? In this episode, Natalie Runion returns to discuss with John Bailey how we build strong churches of people who stay. Hurt people are going to come to church, arguably the best place for them, so how to leaders build a h…
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Comments? Questions? Send us a message! Matt Valencia pastors The Regeneration Church in Scotts Valley, CA. He's a father of five, a church planter, a former school teacher, a former assisting pastor, and the current pastor of ReGen Church. He also heads up a team of leaders across Northern California and Northern Nevada. These leaders serve the se…
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Chuck Surack, founder of Sweetwater Sound, shares his journey of music, entrepreneurship, and leadership, emphasizing the importance of serving people well and persevering through challenges. From a VW bus to one million square feet, God has used Chuck and his family to impact so many in Fort Wayne and beyond. Links & Episode Notes Chuck Surack Swe…
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As leaders in church, we can become discouraged or defensive when we hear about church hurt. In order to build healthy leadership teams and safe communities within the church, though, pastors have to honesty grapple with the reality of church hurt and how we help our people heal. In this episode, Natalie Runion joins John Bailey to discuss the hist…
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Dr. Bill Mounce is a professor and best-selling author of the book Basics of Biblical Greek. He shares his journey as both scholar and entrepreneur, including the genesis of BiblicalTraining.org. Bill and Brian discuss Biblical foundations, interpreting Scripture, and how we can go deeper in the Bible to advance our faith. Links & Episode Notes Bil…
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The voices of the world offer young people today every possible alternative to biblical truth. Many teens and young adults are wrestling with real doubts about God or with apathy to a faith that seems out of touch with their world. In this episode, John Bailey is joined by Evan Wilkerson to discuss the ways in which church leaders and families can …
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Comments? Questions? Send us a message! It's nothing short of a miracle that Steve Marquez is still with us, here on planet earth. Listen to the story of his healing, and even more importantly, of the ministry to which God has called himPastors and leaders, this episode will provide great insights into how to minister to and care for cancer patient…
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Gladys Cruz immigrated from Mexico to Michigan as a young girl, leaving behind a challenging present for an equally challenging future. In this episode Gladys shared about starting her own luxury balloon art business, her struggle with depression & anxiety, the importance of seeking help, and her hopes and dreams for the future. Links & Episode Not…
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The statistics for Christian young adults who lose their faith in high school or early twenties are alarming. How should church leaders respond in order to turn this tide? In this episode, John Bailey is joined by Evan Wilkerson who shares how his journey back to faith inspires his work to answer the burning questions of young people about God and …
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Josh Shockey is the founding pastor of Motor City Church in Detroit, Michigan. He and Brian discuss Josh’s background, including his Texas roots and God’s call to leave everything, move to Detroit, and plant a church. They also talk about the challenges and faith-stretching moments Josh faced along the way. Links & Episode Notes Josh Shockey (Insta…
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Comments? Questions? Send us a message! Pastor Don Rypstra is in his last days of a long pastorate in Rochester, Minnesota. His and his wife's move to northern Idaho means that a new normal is waiting for them, but also that someone will be called into an exciting opportunity to pastor and reach the people of Rochester, home of the world-renowned M…
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Great leaders are always on the lookout for leadership gifts in others and ways to develop future leaders. In this episode, John Bailey is joined by Mark Renfroe to discuss how it is critical for ministry success to develop as leaders who build up more leaders. This aspect of ministry training is often overlooked in seminary, but growing ministries…
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Dr. Nijay Gupta is a New Testament scholar and author of twenty-five books, including Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church. On this episode Nijay shares his path to vocational scholarship, navigating imposter syndrome, battles with health issues, and the benefits of working with a spiritual director. Links & Epi…
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Matt Scogin’s path to the presidency at Hope College was anything but conventional, having spent time in both Washington, D.C. and on Wall Street before arriving back on campus in Holland, Michigan in 2019. Possibly even more unconventional is how he’s leaning on the power of the Gospel to face higher education’s biggest challenges head on. In this…
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Rob Ketterling is a founding pastor of River Valley Church, a large church with multiple campuses in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He and Brian talk about River Valley’s origins and deep heart for the nations. Rob also shares his thoughts on leading well, living with abundance, and leaving a legacy. Links & Episode Notes Rob Ketterling River Valley Churc…
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Kellanova (formerly Kellogg) Senior Vice President Kris Bahner shares her personal journey and experiences, including reaching her full potential despite significant childhood limitations and needing to escape an abusive first marriage. Kris also offers a wealth of advice for young leaders. Links & Episode Notes Kris Bahner (LinkedIn) Clubfoot Spin…
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Hip-hop artist Steven Malcolm shares his journey from challenging upbringing to a successful recording career. Amidst the chaos, he found encouragement in basketball, music, and ultimately, his faith in Christ. Links & Episode Notes Steven Malcolm (Spotify | Apple Music) The Edge Urban Fellowship Reach Records 116 Lecrae “Christ My Swagg” cover art…
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The biggest distinction between the lives of the saved and unsaved is the ongoing transformative work of the Spirit. The church has a responsibility to help people as they learn how to submit their themselves to God, but how do church leaders prioritize discipleship? In this episode, John Bailey is joined by Joshua West to discuss why discipleship …
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Comments? Questions? Send us a message! It's a huge problem. And because of it, we're losing many of our best youth to the world, the flesh, and the devil. Too often, the young people in our churches run off to college or university and subsequently abandon the faith. Also, in our churches there often is a big chasm between what happens in youth or…
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Made to Advance host Brian Aulick is joined by special guest (and podcaster in her own right) Shawna Beyer to talk about how you’ll be inspired and equipped by this new podcast, launching January 11, 2024. Links & Episode Notes Shawna and Perry Mornings - Moody Radio Real Sisters, Real Talk Engedi Church Upcoming guests sneak peek Steven Malcolm Kr…
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The only people whom God can really use are those who realize that apart from the Lord, we are weak and foolish. In this episode, John Bailey is joined by Joshua West, director of the pastors network, to discuss how leaders who come out of a background of addiction can recover and grow as well as how church leaders can walk alongside those who are …
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Comments? Questions? Send us a message! Every pastor has a testimony, but very few have one like Gary Malkus Jr. Inspiring and directional, Gary's testimony touches a lot of lives, from those in the worst kind bondage to those who need to remember where they came from as they deal with present realities and future dreams. An amazing story... from m…
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How can church leaders tell if they are being led by the Spirit? How can we know whether we are correctly interpreting and teaching the Word of God? In this session, John Bailey is joined by Gary Wilkerson to discuss how Bible teachers can cultivate a passion for their relationship with God and avoid falling into “Christ-less” Christianity. They ex…
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