At RISE Roundtable, we dive into the trials and joys that come with being human. It is a space where Pepperdine community members – students, faculty, staff, administrators, board members and alumni – exchange enduring understandings and personal journeys. Tune in for thought-provoking questions and incredible insights about what it means to build and live a life of resilience.
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“In Reality” debunks fake news and elevates the innovative researchers, entrepreneurs, journalists and policymakers who are fighting back against toxic misinformation. Co-hosts Joan Donovan, research director of the Harvard Kennedy School’s Shorenstein Center on Media and Public Policy, and Eric Schurenberg, an award-winning journalist and former CEO of Fast Company, engage guests in enlightening conversations about solutions to this scourge and the path back to a shared reality.
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Media Bias: Left and Right with CNN's Brian Stelter and The Dispatch's Jonah Goldberg
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It has become general wisdom in these polarized times that all the news you consume is slanted one way or another. The New York Times is not all the news that’s fit to print and Fox News not fair and balanced, to quote mottoes those newsrooms used to use. Now, most would agree that the Times reports through a left-leaning lens, and Fox frankly call…
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How Free Societies Decide What's Real with Brookings Institution's Jonathan Rauch
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The goal of modern disinformation campaigns is not necessarily to turn audiences into true believers but rather to turn them into cynics, to persuade them that you can’t trust anything said by any institution, whether media or science or government. In this world view, there is no such thing as objective truth, everyone is biased or otherwise untru…
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The Original Fact Checker: How To Know What's True with The Post's Glenn Kessler (Election Repost)
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In Reality is taking a summer break, so this is an episode we’ve posted before, but I thought that in the middle of a US Presidential campaign, it might be a good idea to review my conversation with Glenn Kessler, editor of the Washington Post’s Fact Checker column and arguably the creator of the fact checking industry. In the Post, Glenn and his t…
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Is The Rise of MAGA a Failure of Journalism? The University of Texas at Austin's Tom Johnson
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People have a lot of complaints about media in these polarized times. Take your pick: The mainstream press is biased, elitist, sensationalistic, hyper-partisan. If you’re on the right, you may believe that it deliberately enables falsehood. Today’s guest is very much NOT on the right, but he agrees. Tom Johnson is a professor at the University of T…
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How To Immunize Your Mind Against False Beliefs with Carnegie Mellon University's Andy Norman
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Today's guest is Andy Norman, philosophy professor at Carnegie Mellon University and the author of a fascinating book, Mental Immunity: Infectious Ideas, Mind Parasites and the Search for a Better way to Think. Andy argues that it’s possible to immunize the mind against harmful beliefs, just as it’s possible to immunize the body against germs. He a…
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RISE With Alumni: Kenneth Vargas & Emily Shaw
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Pepperdine alumni Kenneth Vargas, RISE Podcast Producer, and Emily Shaw, RISE Program Specialist, sit around the RISE Roundtable to reflect on their resilience journeys at Pepperdine and post-grade and share some tips and insights they learned along the way. We also hear from three more Pepperdine alumni, who each share what has supported their res…
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Want to Understand Today’s Political Debate? Study PsyOps: Sci-fi Author & Science Journalist Annalee Newitzs
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Find this week's episode description below... Join Eric's 'Truth, Disinformation & The 2024 Election' Class at The University of Chicago It’s open to everyone via Zoom. It will discuss what’s going on in the coverage of the election, with a wonderful collection of guest speakers, educators, prominent political reporters and polling experts. It will…
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Mucho Gusto: Astros Prospect Ryan Gusto Talks Triple-A Turnaround
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Jimmy (@AstrosFuture) and Kenny are joined by Astros pitching prospect Ryan Gusto to chat about his turn around in Triple-A, additions to his pitching arsenal, toughest hitters he has faced and much more.Por Apollo Media
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RISE With Nicole Fashaw: Resilience Through Music
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Nicole Fashaw, rising senior, joins RISE Podcast Producer Bo Jaden James at the RISE Roundtable. The two discuss the power of music and songwriting to strengthen one's resilience, and Nicole does a special performance of an original song. We also hear from three Pepperdine community members, who each share a song that reminds them about resilience:…
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Using the Tools of Tech to Hold Big Tech Accountable with Pulitzer-Winner & Proof News Founder Julia Angwin
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Misinformation, rumor, psy-ops and propaganda--whatever you want to call the four horsemen of today’s media apocalypse—have been with us as long as the media itself. But you have to admit that the arrival of digital technology, led by social media, has given all of those forces outsized power. We still haven’t quite come to terms with how tech has …
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RISE With Dr. Jaz Gray: Storytelling & Resilience
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Dr. Jaz Gray, Professor of Communication Studies, joins RISE Program Specialist Emily Shaw at the RISE Roundtable. The two discuss the power of narrative storytelling in strengthening one’s resilience. We also hear from three Pepperdine community members, who each share a story that has impacted their perspective on resilience: Hope Dease, Assistan…
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RISE With Isaac Bonilla: Discovery in the Risk of Failure
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In this episode, Isaac Bonilla, a rising senior, joins RISE Student Lead Ethan Barragán at the RISE Roundtable, sharing his resilience journey to Pepperdine and how he practices resilience skills to support all of his various academic and co-curricular commitments. We also hear from three Pepperdine undergraduate students, who each share risks they…
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The Original Fact Checker: How To Know What's True with The Post's Glenn Kessler
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Finding your way to the truth is the informal job of the 21st-century citizen. All of us. Unless you want to be manipulated, you need some check on the claims you hear uttered by powerful people or repeated, innocently or not, by others. For a few thousand people in this era, correcting the record is a profession, even a calling, and today’s guest …
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Mr. Irrelevant no more: Pascanel Ferreras talks quick rise with Astros
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Jimmy Price and Kenny Van Doren sit down with Astros prospect Pascanel Ferreras to talk about the draft, his quick movement up the system, adjustments to Double-A, favorite walk-up song and much more!Por Apollo Media
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The Lost Art of Civil Discourse with Clea Conner CEO of Open to Debate
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Any institution that aspires to get at the truth needs a process for testing what it believes to be true. Central to the judicial system, for example, are lawyers challenging their opponents’ arguments. In science, claims must be peer-reviewed, and experiments have to be replicated. But in politics and culture, any kind of rule-based, civil testing…
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The Logic Behind Illogical Ideologies: Pepperdine University's Jason Blakely
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The political landscape in the US has fragmented into a handful of beliefs, the adherents to which have less and less in common, other than a profound inability to comprehend others’ beliefs. This, unfortunately, is not news. In a fascinating new book, today’s guest attempts to pierce the incomprehensibility cloak. The guest is Jason Blakely, an as…
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Destroying The Internet In Order To Save It: Project Liberty's Frank McCourt
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The guests who come on In Reality come prepared to talk about big issues. Truth, polarization, the information ecosystem: these are not exactly niche issues. Today’s guest though, may have the biggest embrace of anyone I’ve had on the show... You may know Frank McCourt as the billionaire real estate magnate and owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers base…
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How Newsrooms Decide What's True: Former Editor of the Washington Post Martin Baron
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To figure out what’s true and what’s not in today’s chaotic, fragmented, contradictory information environment, all of us news consumers have to think like journalists: is that story I’m seeing backed by evidence, is the headline fair, is the coverage biased? Well, we could do worse than to think like the journalist who is today’s guest. Until his …
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RISE With Paul Kim, Screen Arts Professor
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In this episode, Paul Kim, Professor of Screen Arts, joins RISE Podcast Producer Kenneth Vargas at the RISE Roundtable. Paul shares his resilience journey as a member of his family, professor, and filmmaker. We also hear from three Pepperdine faculty, who each share how they find a sense of deep enjoyment in life: Martin Premoli, Assistant Professo…
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The Saboteurs Within: University of Michigan's Barbara McQuade
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For decades, America’s foreign adversaries have used disinformation to undermine American democracy, to sow division and create confusion about what is even true. But who needs foreign adversaries when so many Americans, for whatever reason, have embraced the same tactics and same apparent goal? Today’s guest, Barbara McQuade, is a professor at Uni…
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Why We're Losing the Misinformation War: The Information Futures Lab's Claire Wardle
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It was eight years ago, when Brexit and the US Presidential election showed how misinformation enables real-world damage. Since then, researchers, content managers, regulators, journalists and others sprang into action to counter misinformation and now misinformation pollutions is even worse. Why? Claire Wardle has some ideas. She’s been in the fig…
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Stopping Misinformation At The Gate: News Literacy Project's Peter Adams
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Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation and the media with Eric Schurenberg, a long time journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. There are two ways to fight misinformation: One is to debunk falsehoods after they have surfaced. The other is to help create media literate news audience…
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RISE with Esther Chung, Seaver Alumni Relations
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Esther Chung, Manager of Alumni Engagement for Seaver Alumni Relations, joins RISE Program Specialist Emily Shaw at the RISE Roundtable. Esther discusses how she’s navigated being there for someone she loves, while also learning more about herself and her relationship with God in the process. We also hear from three Pepperdine staff, who each share…
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Is News Negativity Driving Audiences Away? The Solutions Journalism Network's David Bornstein
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Journalism’s problems today are legion: Collapsing business models, attacks from political partisans, divisions in the profession over basic questions like objectivity. But none of these is solvable until newsrooms address their troubled relationship with audiences: Too many people don’t believe journalists work in their interest. Many avoid news b…
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Astros prospect Zach Dezenzo recaps offseason; details adjustments for big 2024 season
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Jimmy and Kenny are joined by Astros prospect Zach Dezenzo to recap his eventful off-season. They also talk about his key adjustments, spring training, and his goals for a big 2024 season.Por Apollo Media
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Who Killed Trust? And What Can We Do About It? The Center for Media Engagement at UT Austin's Talia Stroud
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A lot of people, Eric included, are working to figure out what exactly happened to facts, trust in institutions like science and the news, and to the shared reality we used to enjoy in this country. There is no shortage of research about the depth of the problem but very little about what really might reverse it. Which is where today’s guest comes …
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Digital Disruption and the Myth of Mainstream Media: CEO of Fortune Media Alan Murray
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In talking about the news today, it’s tempting to focus on the bad actors, the amplifiers of nonsense and the peddlers of outrage. It’s worth remembering, though, they’re not the only players. There are journalists who adhere to standards and have managed to thrive despite the seismic disruption of the industry. Today’s guest is one of those. Alan …
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Can You Make A Profit Fighting Misinfo? NewsGuard's Gordon Crovitz
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Disinformation is good business. Spreading lies and outrage tends to be profitable, thanks to programmatic advertising, which cares only about traffic, not truth, and funding by state actors like Russia, which pour money into narratives that undermine democracies. Supporting truth is a tougher commercial prospect, but today’s guest is giving it a c…
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Polarization's Ground Zero: Author of 'Network of Lies' Brian Stelter
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According to a Pew Research survey in 2021, almost three quarters of Americans consider Fox News to be part of the mainstream media, along with familiar brands like ABC News and the Wall Street Journal. That’s interesting because Fox is different in many ways. It’s not only easily the most profitable cable news network and the only one trusted by m…
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RISE With First-Generation College Students & Graduates
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On this episode, we sat down with Pepperdine First Lady Joline Gash, first-years Jalen Brooks and Jillian George, and RISE Director Stacey Lee Gobir at the RISE Roundtable. What unites them is that they are all first-generation college students/graduates, being the first in their families to attend and complete college. Nationwide, about half of al…
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How To Know If You Can Trust That Story: The Trust Project's Sally Lehrman
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The information environment today has two broad problems: a supply side problem and a demand side problem. On the supply side, it is ridiculously easy for anyone to spread propaganda or outrage or lies online, and on the demand side, it is hard for audiences to distinguish manipulation from fact-based news. Today’s guest, Sally Lehrman, aims to tac…
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How Fake History Ignites the Fake Present: Britain's Author of 'Fake History' and 'Fake Heroes' Otto English
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Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation and the media. I’m Eric Schurenberg, a long time journalist and media executive, now the executive director of the Alliance for Trust in Media. An awful lot of the heat in today’s polarized political landscape arises from vastly different interpretations of history. In the US, we fight …
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Why Don't The Advocates of Truth Work Together?
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A lot of academic researchers, journalists, NGOs, even a few tech firms--are working on the issue of disinformation. Some people are opposed to this work, especially on the political right, and have given this disparate group the ominous collective nickname of disinformation industrial complex, as if it were a monolith devoted single-mindedly to ce…
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RISE With Connie Horton, La Shonda Coleman, & RISE Student Employees
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Take a seat at the RISE Roundtable, a podcast from Pepperdine University’s Resilience-Informed Skills Education (RISE) Program, where we share and discuss what it means to build and live a life of resilience. On this first episode, we hear the origin story of RISE from the program’s founders: Connie Horton, Vice President for Student Affairs, and L…
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How To Make Advertising An Ally For Truth
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One reason that falsehoods flourish online is that major advertisers fund them—but usually unwittingly. The opaque nature of automated online ad delivery means that advertisers don’t actually know where most of their digital ads appear. On a high-quality news site? Maybe. On a trashy clickbait farm? The ad-tech doesn’t care. Today’s In Reality gues…
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Tech Led Us Into The Misinfo Mess. Can It Lead Us Out?
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You can blame today’s chaotic information environment on many factors: digital inequality and the rise of populism, attention hijacking by social media, and the collapse of mainstream media business models. Wherever you point the finger, digital technology was either the root cause or an accelerant. Which is why today’s guest is particularly worth …
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What We Really Look For When We Say We're Looking For Truth
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Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation and the media. I’m Eric Schurenberg, a longtime journalist, now executive director of the Alliance for Trust in Media. One of my long-held assumptions is that everyone seeks the truth. They may be derailed in that quest by false information, but the ultimate goal is factuality. Today’s …
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The Q-Ham Jam: Quincy Hamilton talks rehab process, strong 2023 season, keys to success and much more!
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Jimmy Price (@AstrosFuture) and Kenny Van Doren (@thevandalorian) chat with Astros 5th round pick in 2021 outfielder Quincy Hamilton. They talk about him walking on in college, breakout season and time in the professional ranks. They also find out about his pet turtle that escaped, his toughest pitcher to hit and more! #Astros #MLB You can find mor…
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Atlantic CEO Nick Thompson: What To Believe (or not) in the News
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When I talk to people about the mission of In Reality, I frequently am told, “Media is so corrupt. Why do you bother.” In some circles, it seems that hating professional media is just a reflex, like saying “Bless you” when someone sneezes. Nothing personal. Today’s guest is one of the best living rebuttals I can think of to this kind of blanket con…
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From Pepperdine to Astros: Ryan Johnson talks journey to professional baseball
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Jimmy Price (@AstrosFuture) and Kenny Van Doren (@thevandalorian) chat with Astros 8th round pick this year infielder Ryan Johnson. They talk about his college days, transition to professional baseball, the draft and much more! #Astros #MLB You can find more Astros Future coverage at AstrosFuture.com. Be sure to check out ApolloHOU.com for homegrow…
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How to Get People to Believe in Science Again
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In politics, you can understand why some voters align themselves with claims that don’t bear up under scrutiny. In politics, there are other forces at work than factuality, like tribal identity and moral narratives. But science is different—or ought to be. And yet trust in science has stumbled, along with media and government. So… why? And what’s t…
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How to Build Immunity to Viral Misinformation
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We in the media tend to be pretty good at admiring the problem of disinformation, not so good at countering it. So a plan for countering falsehoods in the public sphere is one of the things that makes today’s guest, Sander van der Linden, so intriguing. Van der Linden is a professor of Social Psychology in Society at the University of Cambridge and…
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Untouchable Astros Prospects and Venting on Rankings
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Jimmy Price (@AstrosFuture) and Kenny Van Doren (@thevandalorian) give their untouchable prospects and guys they want to keep in the system after the deadline. They also talk about the prospect promotion incentive and discuss the lack of Astros prospects in the top 100 rankings. #Astros #MLB You can find more Astros Future coverage at AstrosFuture.…
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MLB Draft and First Half of the Minor League Season Recap
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Jimmy Price (@AstrosFuture) and Kenny Van Doren (@thevandalorian) recap the Astros 2023 MLB Draft class. They also take a look around the system to highlight the top performers in the first half. #Astros #MLB You can find more Astros Future coverage at AstrosFuture.com. Be sure to check out ApolloHOU.com for homegrown Houston sports coverage as wel…
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Dublin Tech Summit 2023 | What Does Generative AI Mean For The Information Landscape?
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In this special episode, recorded at this years Dublin Tech Summit, Eric is joined by Sean O hEigeartaigh, acting director of the Centre for the study of Existential Risk at Cambridge University. For a dozen years, his research has focused on AI and other emerging technologies. Sean and Eric discuss what generative AI means for the information land…
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Chatting with Astros pitching prospect Rhett Kouba and checking in on the top performing prospects!
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Jimmy Price (@AstrosFuture) and Kenny Van Doren (@thevandalorian) sit down with Astros pitching prospect Rhett Kouba to discuss his hot start this season, the adjustments he’s made, pitching philosophy and more. They also take a look around the system at the top performers over the last month. #Astros #MLB You can find more Astros Future coverage a…
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What’s Really Behind the Collapse of Trust in the Media
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When too many people believe in things that aren’t true, democracy suffers. Democracy also suffers when people refuse to believe what is true, just because it appeared in the mainstream media. For all its failings—the unacknowledged biases, the inevitable errors, the pandering—professional journalism serves a key role in a democracy, and so the ref…
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Why Are Some Beliefs so Maddeningly Resistant to Evidence?
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You don’t have to go too deep on the topic of disinformation before you stumble into a question that philosophers have wrestled with for centuries: How do we know what we know? That’s when it’s good to have a philosopher in the room, and we are lucky today to welcome Åsa Wikforss, a professor of theoretical philosophy at Stockholm University and th…
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Joe Cooks: Chatting with Astros prospect Joey Loperfido!
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Jimmy Price (@AstrosFuture) and Kenny Van Doren (@thevandalorian) sit down with Astros outfield prospect Joey Loperfido to discuss his hot start this season, his connection with the coaches, his Philly love and more. They also take a look around the system at the top performers. #Astros #MLB You can find more Astros Future coverage at AstrosFuture.…
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What if AI Could Literally Read Your Mind?
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Social media platforms know a ton about who you are from your online behavior, but there’s one thing they can’t yet know: what you’re thinking at any given moment. That is the last stronghold of privacy in the digital age, except our next guest believes that could be about to fall, too. Nita Farahany is a professor of law and philosophy at Duke Uni…
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