The Hearing is a legal podcast from Thomson Reuters. Listen to insightful discussions with lawyers, legal experts, and other interesting people connected to the legal industry. We delve into anything and everything – trailblazers in the law, the latest insights on legal innovation and trends, and how the profession is evolving. With hosts based in the UK and the US, we cover issues around the globe. Our hosts: Becky Annison – Trained at a London law firm before moving in-house. Spent 12 year ...
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Simpson Thacher invites you to The Regulatory Roundtable, a quarterly podcast series offering insight from leading regulatory and enforcement lawyers. With increased regulatory scrutiny from the SEC and other agencies, staying on top of regulatory trends has never been more important. This podcast will take you behind the scenes on important policy, exam and enforcement issues affecting funds and the asset management industry. Each episode will feature leading attorneys with deep knowledge o ...
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EP. 158 – Giles Bristow (Surfers Against Sewage)
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In the UK you’ll find spectacular beaches and rivers, a nation of wild swimmers and water lovers… and a big pollution problem! Untreated sewage, chemicals and plastic waste are creating a worsening toxic soup. Surfers Against Sewage (https://www.sas.org.uk) has been fighting back for over 30 years – through public campaigns, education programmes an…
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EP. 157 – Bryan Garner (Black's Law Dictionary)
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Following the recent release of the 12th Edition of Black's Law Dictionary, The Hearing is privileged to welcome its Editor-in-Chief, Bryan Garner, to the show. And to be honest, we're a bit nervous to write this description of our conversation with this esteemed grammarian, lexicographer, and lawyer! You don't hear about fourth graders naming "sha…
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At 15 years old, Shaun Wallace was told that he would most likely end up in prison. Instead, he became a barrister and a TV personality famous for his knowledge mastery – first as a champion of the BBC quiz show Mastermind, and since 2009 as one of the chasers (professional quizzers) on UK television show The Chase. In this episode, Shaun chats wit…
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EP. 155 – Aika Stephenson (Just For Kids Law)
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This episode explores the heart-wrenching subject of youth justice. Guest Aika Stephenson is the founder of Just For Kids Law, a UK charity that represents and advocates for children in contact with the criminal justice system. She’s also the author of In Their Defence: Fighting for Youth Justice One Child at a Time (https://www.mombooks.com/book/i…
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EP. 154 – Zaneta Sedilekova & Ryan James ((re)purpose law)
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In this episode, we dive into the philosophical depths of the legal profession – exploring some of the assumptions underpinning Western legal thought and the implications of such assumptions. So nothing we can’t handle. Join host Becky Annison as she talks to Ryan James and Zaneta Sedilekova, the founders of (re)purpose law – a personal development…
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EP. 153 – Stuart Grossman & Alex Arteaga-Gomez (Grossman Roth Yaffa Cohen)
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In the US, June is no longer just June – it is also National Gun Violence Awareness Month. To that end, this episode delves into one of the most pressing issues facing the US today: school shootings. Lauren sits down with Stuart Grossman and Alex Arteaga-Gomez, two attorneys at the forefront of US legal efforts to help curb gun violence in schools,…
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EP. 152 – Neil Hudgell (Hudgell Solicitors)
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Over decades, hundreds of Post Office employees in the UK were wrongly prosecuted for crimes such as fraud and theft due to accounting errors resulting from faulty software. Many lives were devastated by the false accusations. This week, Yasmin speaks to Neil Hudgell, the Executive Chairman of Hudgell Solicitors, a firm representing many of the cla…
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At the Table: SEC’s Focus on Artificial Intelligence
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In the latest episode of The Regulatory Roundtable, co-produced with Simpson Thacher’s The Funds Channel, we discuss the SEC’s focus on artificial intelligence, including in exams and the recent settlements with two investment advisers in connection with their statements regarding their use of artificial intelligence, and considerations for looking…
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EP. 151 – Jake Heller (CoCounsel, Thomson Reuters)
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Picture this: a young boy enters a computer programming project in his school science fair. It's so sophisticated that his teacher mistakenly assumes a parent must have helped – and awards him last place. The boy then grows up to become CEO of a legal technology company worth $650 million. That story belongs to Jake Heller, Head of CoCounsel – a re…
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Governments around the world are grappling with how to regulate AI on issues ranging from copyright protections to ethical standards, competition rules and beyond. In this episode, host Becky Annison explores AI governance issues with Lord Tim Clement-Jones CBE, member of the UK House of Lords and former chair of its Artificial Intelligence Select …
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EP. 149 – Joe Green (Gunderson Dettmer)
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Salt and pepper. Fish and chips. The sun and the moon. Law and innovation? Ok, maybe those last two haven’t traditionally been a natural pair. But the legal world is changing like never before. What skills should lawyers develop to excel with new technologies? How can lawyers interested in tech get more involved in that field? This episode’s guest,…
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EP. 148 – Reena Parmar (Disabled Solicitors Network)
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For lawyers who are disabled or neurodivergent, finding role models and support in the legal profession is a huge challenge. After becoming disabled eight years ago – and grappling with how to navigate her health and her work as a lawyer – Reena Parmar set out to address that problem. Now Chair of the Disabled Solicitors Network (DSN) at the Law So…
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In this episode, Lauren sits down with Alan Barinholtz, lawyer and star of the hit TV series Jury Duty. Though Alan spent most of his life as a litigator and arbitrator, he dreamed of being an actor. After 40+ years as a lawyer (and, as he puts it, being patient and rehearsing for close to 50 years), Alan's dream came true when he landed the role o…
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EP. 146 – Environmental activism in law firms: how to be a more climate conscious lawyer
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THE CROSS-EXAMINATION – Lawyers who are concerned about climate change increasingly want to see environmental values reflected in their practice. It can be difficult to advocate for change, especially for early career lawyers and those who feel that climate law is outside their expertise. But it turns out you don’t have to be an environmental litig…
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EP. 145 – Michele Meyer-Shipp (Dress for Success Worldwide)
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In this episode, Jennifer sits down with Michele Meyer-Shipp, the Chief Executive Officer of Dress for Success Worldwide. Dress for Success (https://dressforsuccess.org) is a global not-for-profit organization operating in 22 countries. Michele tells us about the organization's mission – helping women achieve economic independence and, as she expla…
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EP. 144 – Freedom of speech in the workplace
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THE CROSS-EXAMINATION – In today's culture, people are used to expressing their views on social media and entering into often polarised debates on potentially emotive issues. Amid the ethos of "bringing your whole self" to work, we have seen this outspokenness permeate into the workplace. There can be a range of differing views which can result in …
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This episode’s guest is Fiona Rutherford, the Chief Executive of Justice, a UK law reform and human rights charity. Justice strives for a fair, accessible, and equal justice system and is also the UK section of the International Commission of Jurists. Fiona chats to Yasmin about a landmark report the charity recently published addressing the erosio…
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EP. 142 – Mirna Santiago (Girls Rule the Law)
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"Show up. Speak up. Woman up." This is the motto of Mirna Santiago, a lawyer, DEI expert, and nonprofit founder and CEO. Through the many roles Mirna has held during her career, which has also included law firm partner and chair of the New York State Bar Association's Committee on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, Mirna epitomizes someone who walks…
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EP. 141 – Dan Neidle (Tax Policy Associates)
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This episode's guest pulls off the impossible: he'll make you wonder if maybe you should have been a tax lawyer. Dan Neidle is described by some as “possibly the UK’s leading tax lawyer”. After spending 25 years at Clifford Chance, including as their UK head of tax, he set-up Tax Policy Associates – a not-for-profit company aiming to improve tax an…
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EP. 140 – Laura Arnold (Arnold Ventures)
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In this episode, Lauren sits down with billionaire philanthropist and former lawyer Laura Arnold, co-founder of Arnold Ventures. Arnold Ventures has spent over $2.5 billion (USD) on more than 3,200 projects in many areas of need, like criminal justice reform, healthcare, democracy and contraceptives, to name a few. The organization, which in part s…
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EP. 139 – Linzi Bull (Penningtons Manches Cooper)
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Modern families come in all sizes and configurations – and often the law is playing catch-up with the issues raised by contemporary family relationships. In this episode, Linzi Bull, partner at Penningtons Manches Cooper, chats with host Yasmin Sheikh about her modern family legal practice. They focus in particular on the complex legal and ethical …
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EP. 138 – Hannah Gordon (San Francisco 49ers)
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What does a 20-year legal career in American football look like? How does a lawyer rise through the ranks to become Chief Legal Officer for a team? And what is it like for a female lawyer to achieve this in a male-dominated arena? In this episode, Jennifer sits down with Hannah Gordon, Senior Advisor to the President of the San Francisco 49ers, to …
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EP. 137 – Jolyon Maugham KC (Good Law Project)
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How many of us would have the courage to blow up our careers and get back onto the path we dreamed of in law school? Jolyon Maugham KC, founder and executive director of the Good Law Project, did just that. Good Law Project (https://goodlawproject.org) is a publicly-funded not-for-profit organisation, based in the UK, that uses the law to campaign …
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EP. 136 – Bret Parker (New York City Bar Association)
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This episode's guest is Bret Parker – Executive Director of the New York City Bar Association and a man who epitomizes making lemons out of lemonade. Bret's diagnosis of Parkinson's at age 38 inspired him to live by the motto “Do epic sh*t.” So far, this has included skydiving, a triathlon, and running 7 marathons in 7 days on 7 continents – all wh…
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At the Table: Exploring the SEC’s Recently-Adopted Private Fund Adviser Rules
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This episode focuses on the SEC’s new and amended rules targeting private fund advisers, which were adopted on August 23. In addition to reviewing the rules’ requirements—including some significant modifications from the rules that were proposed in February 2022—we discuss our expectations for fund advisers under the new rules and the ongoing litig…
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EP. 135 – Lubna Shuja (Law Society of England & Wales)
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In this episode, Yasmin sits down with Lubna Shuja – the outgoing President of the Law Society of England and Wales. Lubna is the first Asian, first Muslim and only the seventh female President in the Law Society's nearly 200-year history. The pair reflect on Lubna’s term as President – what she’s achieved, what her typical working days have been l…
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EP. 134 – James Egan (Epperson & Owens)
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One day you’re a partner at a small US law firm, where you typically defend medical malpractice actions and have tried a few cases. The next, you’re working on a trial that’s being livestreamed around the world – and your client is Gwyneth Paltrow. Plus, you've gone viral because the internet is calling you the “Superman lawyer” due to your likenes…
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Fasten your seatbelts – technological advances in legal work are about to hit warp speed, thanks to the possibilities unlocked by artificial intelligence and large language models. This episode’s guest, Ideshini Naidoo was, until very recently, Head of Engineering, Legal Workflow, at Thomson Reuters. Just before Ideshini left the company to pursue …
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EP. 132 – Rashida La Lande (Kraft Heinz)
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TWLL TAKEOVER – Cue the fireworks: it's the grand finale of our TWLL Takeover mini-series, and our closing guest is suitably dazzling. Rashida La Lande, Global General Counsel of the Kraft Heinz Company, joins host Janelle Wrigley to chat about her stellar career, from M&A partner at a global law firm to general counsel of one of the most recogniza…
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Meditation. Gratitude. Exercise. Successful lawyering. At first glance, one of these may seem out of place. But for this episode’s guest, Jeff Bast, these are all inextricably tied together. As co-founder of the Miami law firm Bast Amron, Jeff is no stranger to the stresses of being a managing partner. Yet, as you'll hear, Jeff has known something …
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EP. 130 – Barry Matthews (Social Mobility Business Partnership)
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TWLL TAKEOVER – Call him a leader. Call him a mentor. Call him a supporter of human beings everywhere. Just don’t call him an ally! Find out why Barry Matthews, Group Deputy General Counsel at Pennon Group and founder of the Social Mobility Business Partnership (https://smbp.org.uk), dislikes that term, as he chats with host Janelle Wrigley about s…
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EP. 129 – Margaret Owen (Widows for Peace)
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We feel honoured to have spent time in the presence of a true great for this week’s episode: Margaret Owen OBE. She’s a human rights barrister specialising in women’s rights, with a career spanning decades and a passion for justice that won’t stop. Margaret and Yasmin talk about the start of her career – the things that have and sadly haven’t chang…
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EP. 128 – Makalika Naholowa'a (Native Hawaiian Legal Corp.)
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TWLL TAKEOVER – Intellectual property lawyer, indigenous person, law firm leader, mother, and advocate. This week’s guest on the TWLL Takeover, Makalika Naholowa'a, speaks with host Janelle Wrigley about navigating the highest levels of the legal profession while representing all these identities and roles. Charting her career journey from IP lawye…
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EP. 127 – Darieth Chisolm (50 Shades of Silence)
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Warning: this episode deals with adult themes. Imagine discovering after a break-up that your significant other took nude photos of you without your knowledge. Your ex, who lives abroad, repeatedly threatens to publish the photos on the internet. And, when they finally make good on that promise, they also share the website with your family, friends…
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EP. 126 – Florence Brocklesby (Bellevue Law)
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TWLL TAKEOVER – Many lawyers love the challenge of the job but reach a point where the long hours of law firm life become untenable – often, after starting families. But what’s the solution? In our second episode of the TWLL Takeover, host Janelle Wrigley chats with Florence Brocklesby, who solved that problem with creativity and courage in startin…
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EP. 125 – Susan Crumiller (The Feminist Litigation Firm)
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TWLL TAKEOVER – Welcome to the TWLL Takeover of The Hearing! We’ve joined forces with Transforming Women's Leadership in the Law (TWLL) to bring you this special mini-series focusing on issues of women’s leadership, the stories of inspiring leaders, and the things we can all do to make the legal profession a better place for women – and for everyon…
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At the Table: Exams and Enforcement – Focusing on Private Funds
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In the latest episode of The Regulatory Roundtable, join us as we take a bird’s eye view of the current SEC private funds environment and what’s to come. Outlining policy and rulemaking, the increasingly challenging exam program, and the state of play on enforcement, we discuss the return to private funds as a marquee exam and enforcement priority.…
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EP. 124 – Daniel Hoadley (Mishcon de Reya)
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ChatGPT is probabilistic and not deterministic, which has important implications for how lawyers might use it. Did you understand that sentence? If not, you will after listening to this episode. How does the tech that’s launched a thousand think-pieces actually work? Should we be excited about the opportunities that large language models offer or s…
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EP. 123 – Camille Vasquez (Brown Rudnick)
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When lawyers represent celebrities, they don't typically become celebs themselves. But that’s what happened to Camille Vasquez, who represented Johnny Depp in his defamation trial against Amber Heard. In this episode, Lauren sits down with Camille, who rose to fame in no small part because of the way she commanded the courtroom in Depp v. Heard, al…
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If we were to suggest “blending your personal and professional life, to bring your whole self to work”, how would that make you feel? Perhaps that sentiment aligns perfectly with how you approach your career too. Or maybe it makes you feel like stuffing carrots in your ears to avoid yet more corporate speak. Whatever your reaction, listen up! Yasmi…
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EP. 121 – Helen Wan (The Partner Track)
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If the best childhood gift you ever received was a typewriter to write mystery stories, perhaps it's no surprise when you end up writing a novel that inspires a hit TV show. In this episode, host Jennifer Thibodaux sits down with Helen Wan – lawyer, author, and DEI consultant. Jennifer and Helen chat about Helen's debut novel, The Partner Track, wh…
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EP. 120 – Redundancies, layoffs, and cutbacks – oh my!
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THE CROSS-EXAMINATION – With corporate layoffs making headlines around the world, Becky Annison explores the pitfalls of handling redundancies across borders, and where companies go wrong. Speaking with experts from the US and UK, Becky delves into the widely varying rights that employees have in different places, and the consequences that business…
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EP. 119 – Tracey Dovaston (Head of DEI & Partner)
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MY LEGAL JOB & ME – In the hotseat for this episode is Tracey Dovaston, a Partner and the Head of Diversity, Equity & Inclusion at Pallas Partners. Tracey has an impressive background, switching between private practice and in-house roles. These have included Head of Litigation Investigations & Regulatory Enforcement at Barclays, Chief Compliance O…
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EP. 118 – Rossana Arteaga-Gomez (American Civil Liberties Union)
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On this week's episode, our host Lauren Sobel sits down with Rossana Arteaga-Gomez – a partner at AXS Law Group in Miami, Florida, and President of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Florida. Rossana and Lauren chat about Rossana's unique legal career in both civil litigation and criminal defense work, as well as how Rossana cracked the c…
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EP. 117 – Mark Henderson (Doughty Street Chambers)
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We know we have some long-time listeners to The Hearing (thank you!) and we get super excited when we meet them. But for those of you who haven't listened since way back in 2018, an episode we often find ourselves recommending is ep. 6 (https://pod.fo/e/149f97). It's a jaw-dropping interview and it's how we first met Yasmin. Fast-forward five years…
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At the Table: Navigating the Global ESG Regulatory Landscape
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In this episode we discuss global ESG trends and evolving regulatory frameworks, including the recent increase of proposed legislation in the U.S. concerning ESG investments; the SEC climate disclosure rule proposed on March 21, 2022; and the scope of reporting obligations under the EU Sustainable Finance Disclosure Regulation (SFDR), Corporate Sus…
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EP. 116 – Alexandra Carter (Columbia Law School)
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What does the word negotiation really mean? What's the best question to ask during a negotiation? And what does negotiating have to do with kayaking?! In this episode, Jennifer chats with Alex Carter, world-renowned keynote speaker, professional coach, and Director of the Mediation Clinic at Columbia Law School, to answer these questions and more. …
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EP. 115 – Equal Representation for Expert Witnesses
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Expert witnesses can make or break a case: judges and juries look to their authority to explain all manner of technical subjects. But it turns out that hidden biases may be at work in who gets selected to testify as an expert. In this episode, Becky digs into why this disparity exists and how it might be solved with her guests Isabel Kunsman and Ka…
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EP. 114 – Katharine Larsen (Thomson Reuters)
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In this episode, Lauren chats with Katharine Larsen, Deputy General Counsel, Litigation, for Thomson Reuters. Katharine was raised in a small town in the midwestern US, but always knew she wanted to explore the world. At a young age, Katharine began living and working abroad, and continued to do so at various points in her legal career. Now back in…
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In this episode, Yasmin sits down with Peter Daly, an employment law partner at Doyle Clayton, to discuss his career and the high-profile philosophical belief cases he's been focused on recently. They discuss the significance for employers of the judgment Forstater, as well as the wider societal impact of such cases. For more episodes that touch up…
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