When you work in entertainment, you are in the business of fun. This podcast will focus on the challenges and opportunities associated with helping your customers create memories and special moments. We will talk about sports, theatre, performing arts, and other forms of entertainment, highlighting the best ideas in marketing live experiences, creating long-term customers, and growing revenues.
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John Kinsner has walked a diverse road in the world of entertainment
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I love this conversation with John Kinsner because John has done so many things as he has made his way to becoming CEO of Black Ink Presents that I can't call our conversation anything less than a love letter to the business. We discuss a ton of things today: We talk about the tour for 'Labryinth'. John's experience sweeping floors, cleaning bathro…
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Key Performance Indicators: Why Are You Using the KPIs you are using?
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This is a special conversation that comes from a LinkedIn Live I did with Bruce Eckfelt and William Lieberman. We discuss KPIs. You can find me at www.DaveWakeman.com Sign up for my newsletters on my website. Tell me who you want to hear from and what topics you want to learn about by sending me an email Dave@DaveWakeman.com…
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Jon Allen teaches me how to approach a new market
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My guest today is Jon Allen from TKT.com. We had a good time talking about TKT's move to the European market. Jon teaches me about taking a US tech focused approach to the hospitality ticket market in Europe. We talk about opportunity. We also hit upon the importance of speaking the language of the market you are in. Jon talks about staying in line…
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I've got Andrew Recinos on the podcast today! Andrew is the CEO of Tessitura. He came to me with a great idea: we have our podcast conversation built around the ideas I share with folks in 'The Fans for Life' workshop. We discussed ideas such as: Why Andrew enjoys my POV of looking at tickets through the gamut of tickets sold. We discuss the idea o…
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Dr. Persuasion joins me to talk about marketing and building buzz
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What a fun episode! Yaniv Zaid is my guest today. We had a great time! Yaniv's new book is called 'The 21st Century Sales Bible' and it will help you sell more tickets, services, and products of all kinds. Authenticy is the key to success in the 21st century and we cover what that means exactly. Trust. Relevance. Balance. At the core of Dr. Zaid's …
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Steve Cook teaches me how to view current trends in tickets...(Republish)
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I'm reposting my conversation with Steve. The original show notes didn't publish only my bulleted notes about what I wanted to say. I had some bad weather in my area and the disruption in internet and power threw me for a loop. Enjoy a picture of the tree that fell in my driveway. My guest today is Steve Cook. Steve is CEO of TCG Entertainment. We …
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Hi! I'm creating a class called "Markets and Competition: Strategy for Modern Times" and as I'm putting it together, I want to share the journey with you. Today, I recorded a quick webinar called "Strategy 101". In this webinar, we talked about 7 ideas that I think will give you a strong foundation in strategy. My 5 question strategy framework Why …
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Angela Meleca wants us to look at "Return on Arts"
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My guest today is Angela Meleca. What a great conversation. We got into a really interesting conversation about: Arts' business models Funding Arts as a business The public value of the arts Framing conversations Measuring the impact of arts And, much more! You can find Angela on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelapmeleca Meleca Creative A…
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Stephen Glicken updates us on Project Admission
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My guest today is Stephen Glicken from Project Admission. You have heard from Stephen before, but I wanted to have a chat about what Project Admission has been working on... Including new areas of focus and big new partnership announcements. This episode was delayed due to a personal situation. So the references to visiting them at the Tessitura co…
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A Secutix super episode about technology, customer experience, and tickets...
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I have two guests today: David Hornby and Michael McDermott. David is the Managing Director Northern Europe, UK, and Ireland for SecuTix and Michale McDermott is the General Manager of the Americas for SecuTix. We had a really great conversation that hit on a ton of really great ideas and concepts. In this episode, we talk about: Tech and change in…
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Brian Hess explains "sports washing" to me and you!
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Brian Hess is back! We are talking sports washing. I thought I had a better grasp on the subject than I did. But Brian discusses the many ways that sports washing presents a challenge to sports fans in America, outside of the obvious ones. We discuss the possibility of foreign investment in the NFL, LIV, and more. We also hit on the way that these …
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Sabrina Carrazzo is a fantastic teacher, PR person, and leader!
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I loved this conversation because I totally got Sabrina Carrazzo worked up about teaching, women's sports, and helping international soccer teams enter the US market. Sabrina and Asli Pelit teach a sports PR and communications class at NYU. They invited me to give a guest lecture earlier in the year. I loved the way that Sabrina nurtured, challenge…
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Jason Velez sells baseball in NYC and isn't competing head to head with any of the bigger teams...
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My guest today is Jason Velez from the Staten Island Ferry Hawks. I've known Jason for a long time. So long that he has one of the OG Dave business cards. So, it was great to catch up with Jason. We hit on 3 big topics in this episode: Selling based on value Competing with bigger brands and bigger teams Unique promotions We talk about the Ferry Haw…
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Lauren Teague talks about 'second fan fashion'
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Lauren Teague returns! Lauren is the CEO of FanWgn. She has created an idea that is called "Second Fan Fashion" and it is very cool. FanWgn ties together a few of Lauren's favorite things: Sports Fashion Tech Sustainability In this episode, we talk about Lauren's career path and how she went from an employee to a sole business to a founder. We hit …
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Chris Pantani teaches us that brand activations still matter
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My guest today is Chris Pantani. Chris is the GM of the NY Mavericks of the Professional Bull Riders. We talk about bull riding and why there is now a professional bull riding team representing New York City. I find out that there is a long history of professional bull riding in NYC. We also talk about the makeup of bullriding, the history of the s…
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Let's celebrate the 200th episode of 'The Business of Fun'
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Today is the 200th episode of 'The Business of Fun' podcast! You didn't think I would not have something special prepared, did you? I will share some lessons learned and some things I'm thinking about and paying attention to. You can come work with me in NYC on September 4th, 2024...I've recreated 'Fans For Life' for the current world we live in. F…
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Solene Jimenez teaches us about the culture of sales in the arts...
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My guest today is Solene Jimenez. She is Head of International Development for arenametrix. www.arenametrix.com This is Solene's first podcast appearance and we had a good time. Of course, she didn't tell me it was her first podcast until we'd finished recording. I like to make the first podcast appearance fun and easy for folks. We talked about cu…
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Alasdair Crawley says sports business is at a crossroads...
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I have a good conversation for you today with Alasdair Crawley from FanBase. We had a great time talking about sports business including: Why sports business is at a crossroads. The challenge of getting the basics right. Data v. research Balancing the short term and long term in fanbase building. The power of experience... And, much more. I'm going…
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Dr. Bijoy John Teaches Us About Our Superpower: SLEEP!
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I haven't always been a champion sleeper. Like a lot of my friends, I haven't always had a regular bedtime due to work, school, social life, whatever. In college, at the University of Alabama, I couldn't be torn from the things going on in my dorm. I was so excited to see everything...I didn't want to miss a thing. Later on, I was working 3 or more…
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Brian Hess doesn't put much validity in the numbers of the proposed new Northern VA arena.
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Today's episode is personal because it is about the proposed arena in Northern VA. My guest is Brian Hess from I Street Advisors. Like me, Brian lives in the area. We discuss the arena at length: The nature of the market and where attendance comes from. Public subsidies. The 50/50 bet at the heart of the deal. Whether or not the District's offer to…
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Jeffrey Shaw teaches me how selling eggs explains positioning...
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Jeffrey Shaw, author of The Self-Employed Life, teaches me some great lessons about positioning, strategy, marketing, branding, and sales. Listen and find out how selling eggs explains all of this. I'm hosting a FREE strategy webinar on 31 January 2024 at 11 AM Eastern called 'Beyond Boom and Bust'. Join the 'Talking Tickets' Slack Channel. Send me…
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This is a me episode with a recording of my 'First Wednesday with Dave' session from December where we talk about planning for 2024. I'm hosting a FREE strategy webinar on 31 January 2024 at 11 AM Eastern called 'Beyond Boom and Bust'. Join the 'Talking Tickets' Slack Channel. Send me your questions about driving attendance in 2024. I'm going to us…
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What Do Brokers Really Want to See When a Ticket Goes On Sale?
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"What do scalpers really like to see when a ticket goes on-sale?" That question popped up in my inbox about a week ago. It got me thinking about the questions that people ask me when they want to know how to "stop" the secondary market or whether or not to work with the secondary market. So, I had Martin Haigh from Total Tickets come on to discuss …
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Have You Ever Worried That Your Website or Experience Isn't Accessible Enough?
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My guest today, Caspian Turner, helps me answer that question and shows us how you can take some easy steps to solve the problem for yourself. I want you to be more a part of 'The Business of Fun'. What does that mean? Send me your questions about strategy: Is there an issue you are constantly struggling with? Is there something going on in your bu…
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The TiqAssist guys teach us about how understanding fans' pain can lead to opportunity!
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I've got the TiqAssist guys on today. Chris Babu and Jamie Zimmerman. www.tiqassist.com We got into a bunch of stuff like: How feeling pain as STHs led them to start TiqAssist. Jumping careers to get into sports. The "strain" of resale for season ticket holders. The cash offer that TiqAssist makes to help make people have a bit more "peace of mind"…
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Drew McManus says "one size fits none" is a bad idea...
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My guest today is Drew McManus from UpStage CRM: www.upstagecrm.io We had a great time catching up in Seattle at INTIX and now we've gone and done a podcast! We hit on a lot of topics like what led Drew to start UpStage. I put Drew on the spot and make him define "one size fits none". We discuss where he gets his ideas from. Why focusing on the min…
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I have Mark Herschberg back today to talk about his new app, Brain Bump. This is a really cool tool that lets you bring learning with you wherever you are. I've been taking part in the launch and it enables me to provide bite sized nuggets and insights to you so that you can access the ideas that you want to use when you need them. Check out my fri…
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Paul Bailey teaches me how to make Brand Purpose meaningful and not BS...
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I'm talking with Paul Bailey from Halo in Bristol, UK today. We are discussing brand and this is a great one because we set out to hit on a few really important topics: Research Brand Purpose Top of Funnel Activity Paul was kind enough to come on to be the first guest to talk about brand exclusively so that I would have some conversations that I di…
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Christy Grantham goes to INTIX because it is an answer to burnout...
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My final conversation from the floor of INTIX at the Booking Protect booth. This time I catch up with friend of the podcast, Christy Grantham. We talk about why she goes to INTIX. Christy talks about how INTIX helps her learn about new tech, new ideas, and avoid burnout. One of the important things Christy learned was around the shift from "no refu…
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Here's another conversation live from the Cover Genius booth at INTIX 2023 in Seattle with Casey Thomas of AudienceView. We talk about what Casey likes about INTIX. We hit on things she's learned. And, why we are snazzy dressers. Check out AudienceView at www.audienceview.com Hook up with my friends at Cover Genius and find out how they've helped f…
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Angela Higgins live from the Cover Genius booth at INTIX 2023
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I did some quick podcast conversations at INTIX that I loosely called, "8 minutes at INTIX" from the Cover Genius booth. This first one is with Angela Higgins. Along with Jo Michel, Angela does the Ticketing Professionals Conference of Australia. The conference is in October this year. Check out my friends at Cover Genius: www.CoverGenius.com We di…
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Chris Furnell teaches us how we can make change stick in our organizations.
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REPOST WITH REPAIRED FILE Totally new idea this week. Chris Furnell offered up the idea of a conversation centered entirely on the process of change and making change stick in our organizations. I jumped at the chance because I've been talking with y'all about change for years. So we dug in deep on change. We cover things like: Dealing with constan…
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People are 25% more likely to go to a movie in 2023...that and more on the 2023 Numbers to Know Webinar Replay
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I'm my own guest today with an audio version of my "2023 Numbers to Know" webinar. This is something I started during the lockdown year of 2020 and I'm back with a lot of intersting stuff like: What the 60% projected drop in GDP means for Australia. And, how this will help you look at numbers. 1 and what Return to Work policies have really looked l…
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Bruce McTague tells us about the future of business and why exploration isn't a good business model.
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My guest today is Bruce McTague. Bruce is a first in two ways for the podcast: A think tank person A futurist This opens up the door to a really new type of conversation for listeners. We discuss things like: Adding value Lack of innovation in the economy Why large companies can have similar challenges Cruise lines and "butts in berths" "us v. them…
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Dave Harland teaches us how to use humor in our marketing...
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My guest today is Dave Harland...the Wordman himself. Get his excellent newsletter: The Word! This is an excellent conversation about things like: Dave's Uncle Tony, Gary V, and Simon Sinek and what all three of them have in common. Why being a trained journalist helps Dave be a better copywriter. How to not take yourself seriously as a marketer. W…
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Eduardo Lebre explains why Coldplay's touring habits matter...
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My guest today is Eduardo Lebre from Circular Unity. www.circularunity.com We discuss sustainability in the live entertainment business. Eduardo teaches us about things like: Why Coldplay's touring habits are so important to a sustainable touring business. How likely ticket buyers are to pay for more sustainable events. Why you need to consider thi…
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Sheryl Lynn teaches me about the "Chair of Joy"...
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A little different episode today, but Sheryl Lynn from Joyley comes on and teaches me a mindfulness technique that might be useful to y'all during the holiday season. Her take on mindfulness is called "The Chair of Joy". We discuss mental health, mindfulness, negativity, and getting your mind right. Check out my friends at Booking Protect at INTIX …
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Simon Severino teaches us planning for 2023
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My buddy, Simon Severino, is back! We wanted to discuss planning for 2023. We also talk about his new book, Strategy Sprints. Simon gives away some valuable resources...and more. Visit my website: www.davewakeman.com Get the 'Talking Tickets' newsletter at http://talkingtickets.substack.com New stuff for 2023 on the way. Visit my friends at Booking…
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My guests today are: Morgan Harper and Krista Brown from American Economic Liberties Project. I wanted to have them come on and talk about the campaign that they are working on around monopoly power. As we discuss on the podcast, monopoly power isn't unique to tickets, but it is an area where people can see and feel the impact with little education…
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Simon Weber talks about how your fans don't wear a Ticketmaster jersey.
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My guest today is Simon Weber, Co-Founder of Vivenu! We had a great talk. It was really nice to get to know Simon. We covered: The importance of controlling your brand. Data. The power of market research. I pushed back on Simon's talk of Vivenu being "product oriented" because the amount of research they did into developing the product says that th…
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Bill Guertin: every bad sports sales hire costs a team $125,000!
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My guest today is the 800 pound guerilla, Bill Guertin! I should have asked why it isn't the thousand pound gorilla!? Save that one for the second conversation! I'm surprised that I haven't had Bill on before this, but the conversation we had is worth the wait. We discuss the costs of bad sales hires. We talk about how successful the ISBI has been …
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Scott Goodacre: Marketing a Football Club!
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My guest today is Scott Goodacre. Scott runs a website www.theonlinerule.com that focuses on marekting football clubs. We had a great chat about brands, marketing, and football. We cover why red should be everywhere when Man U does anything. Why the Spurs cockerel matters and a lot more. Check out my 'Talking Tickets' newsletter at http://talkingti…
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Aren Murray teaches us about technology and being customer focused.
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My guest today is Aren Murray from Tix Ticketing. We chat about new technologies, the pandemic, and being customer focused. Aren shares her experiences with INTIX. We discuss what matters about a cloud based ticketing solution. Aren gives me some examples of how ticketing can be fun and intuitive for the folks that work in box offices and a lot mor…
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Matt Zarracina tells me what "rules based" ticketing is...
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My guest today is Matt Zarracina from True Tickets. We talk about the Spurs, obviously. We also hit on True Tickets' announcement of their new offering around "Rules Based Ticketing". Matt shares with us his ideas about NFTs and Blockchain in ticketing and offers up a slightly different take than we typically hear when discussing this topic. We dis…
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Today, my guest is Martin Gammeltoft from Activity Stream. We talk about Activity Stream's buying spree and mergers. We talk about technology, marketing, and a lot more. Visit my friends at Booking Protect and find out why refund protection is a valuable tool as businesses in entertainment continue to recover. www.bookingprotect.com Check out my we…
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Brett Goldberg tells us how behavior has changed during COVID
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My guest today is Brett Goldberg, Co-CEO of TickPick. On today's episode we find out the origin of TickPick's name. We also cover how he managed his business during the pandemic and why being lean helped them react effectively. We get into all-in pricing. We cover market fragmentation, market power, and how to win business. We also hit on NFTs, Blo…
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Amanda Lester says that you need to do your market research earlier.
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My guest today is Amanda Lester. Amanda is a former performer and is now a marketer. This is a really great conversation around marketing research. We cover how to use market research to uncover actionable insights. We talk about pricing research. And, we cover the ideas that drive audience development. Visit my website: www.davewakeman.com Check o…
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Paul Williamson teaches us what tickets and startups have in common.
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This was a great conversation with Paul Williamson from Two Circles. Paul mentioned to me recently that every project he works on has the feel of a startup and we explore that idea. Along the way, Paul teaches us how to think through complex projects. He talks about market research, using pricing to create opportunities, and how to balance attendan…
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Asher Weiss teaches us that Blockchain tickets can unlock our data
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My guest today is Asher Weiss from Tixologi. Asher is my first guest in a series of episodes I'm going to do around recovery from the pandemic. His company is involved in blockchain ticketing, but Asher realizes that the blockchain is a door to a bigger world, not just an end in itself. So we discuss data, revenue, marketing, and recovery. Get my w…
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7 Ways To Set Better Prices! Learn for FREE!
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This is a broadcast of the audio of a free webinar I did to test out some new technology and some new learnings. The technology was a bit problematic, so I wanted to get the audio out ASAP. We cover discounts, price wars, premium pricing, and a lot more. Check out my friends at Booking Protect. We are working to turn the podcast feed into 'The Road…
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