29 – "We haven’t even tried yet" – Military Victory in Ukraine

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In the first of ‘Pillars of Victory’ a two-part special on what the West – including Germany - needs to do to achieve victory for Ukraine, Ben and Aaron talk with top military, diplomatic and NATO experts, who bring years of experience of top-level decision-making to BerlinsideOut. They discuss the level of Western commitment needed for Ukraine to win on the battlefield, how victory is defined, and how to bring Ukraine into NATO to shield it from further Russian aggression after war’s end.

Guests:

• Ben Hodges, Former Commanding General, United States Army Europe (@general_ben)
• Oleksandr V. Danylyuk, Chair of Centre for Defence Strategies, Ukraine
• Ivo H. Daalder, Former US Permanent Representative to NATO (@IvoHDaalder)
• Teri Schultz, Journalist with Deutsche Welle and NPR, Brussels (@TeriSchultz)

Resources:

• Time to Call Putin’s Bluff, Adam Kinzinger and Ben Hodges, CNN Opinion
• What Ukraine’s Defeat Would Mean for the US, Europe and the World, Oleksandr V. Danylyuk, RUSI
• What Ukraine Needs from NATO: Advanced Weapons—And What Membership will Require, Ivo Daalder & Karen Donfried, Foreign Affairs
• Could a Ukraine under siege join NATO?, Teri Schultz, Deutsche Welle
• Arming for Growth, Moritz Schularick, IfW Kiel Institute for World Economy Policy Article
• Security Guarantees for Ukraine: Until NATO Membership, Extending the Joint Expeditionary Force Is the Best Option, Benjamin Tallis, DGAP Policy Brief
• Chancellor Scholz Must Change Course and Support Ukraine to Win, Benjamin Tallis, Ralf Fücks and Maximilian Terhalle, Byline Times
• Why Ukraine should get an invitation to NATO, Alyona Getmanchuk & Olena Halushka
• The war is not going well for Ukraine, Eliot A Cohen, The Atlantic
• American Aid Alone Won’t Save Ukraine, Jack Watling, Foreign Affairs

This podcast is an original production of the German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP). It was created as part of DGAP's Action Group Zeitenwende.

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