Ep 2 "Katie, Food, and Art"

Casual Ecstasy with Katie Barbaro

Join Katie in her coffin-like closet as she talks about how her relationship with food and recovery from disordered eating relate to "showing up" in her creative life. As promised (by Katie, to herself), this episode has been left messy and unedited (except for one pregnant "trying to remember something" pause in the middle which was literally just minutes of silence). While we're making the description too long, Katie also mentions how she felt "fat" as a Kindergartener (which was true), but she never clarified that the reason she perceived that to be a bad thing was due to a larger systemic problem of fatphobia, to which there could be an entire episode devoted. Fatness is neither good nor bad! The incredible book that inspired this episode (though Katie still has not finished reading it) is called "Women, Food, and God" by Geneen Roth.