Episode: 24 Xenogenesis - Dawn: IV: The Training Floor Chapter 9

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In Episode 24, Richard and Michael discuss the final chapter of Xenogenesis Book 1: Dawn.

Timestamps

00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:32 - Opening discussion
00:01:03 - Michael and Richard discuss the final spoiler of the chapter…
00:01:52 - Chapter 9 predictions
00:03:25 - Everyone is a future-teller, just with wrong timings
00:04:13 - End of the World predictions
00:04:57 - Chapter 9 summary begins
00:10:09 - “Person”
00:13:10 - Problem with Nikanj
00:15:55 - Why the humans MUST return to the Oankali
00:17:57 - “Unclean”… and whaaaaat??
00:19:28 - In Vitro Fertilisation and sperm storage [1, 2]
00:23:27 - Sperm banks [3 - 5] and problem with the Oankali scientific approach (or lack thereof)
00:29:03 - “Final” off-tangent
00:29:36 - “Unclean” proper discussion
00:42:05 - Problem with the Oankali
00:49:13 - Failure to communicate - if solved, comedy movies would be boring
00:55:11 - Daryl Davis
00:57:16 - KKK titles - and why you cannot NOT laugh when reading them [6]
00:58:58 - Back to chapter 9
01:00:27 - Difference between Humans and the Oankali
01:02:21 - Chapter 9 ends but the discussion continues
01:06:43 - Last point on the final chapter
01:07:52 - Book FINISHED! …but the discussion goes on
01:09:41 - Richard gives a brief summary of the book
01:11:11 - Lilith being abducted by aliens while heading towards pyramids - coincidence?! I think not!
01:14:30 - Jdahya
01:19:25 - The travel platforms
01:19:49 - Final poke at Kahguyaht
01:26:41 - Idiots trying to conquer the whole ship
01:30:52 - We appreciate the book and its unpredictability
01:39:05 - The topics we discussed throughout the series
01:48:28 - Xenogenesis is not often mentioned in lists of SciFi books
01:49:54 - Statistics on the episodes
01:51:47 - Future books predictions
01:53:39 - Richard witholding information and reading so many books that Michael will stay forever as the test subject
02:00:44 - Outro

References

Sperm storage:

• [1] https://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(11)01252-8.pdf - Short article about animals that store sperm.
• [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_sperm_storage - Wiki article on the female sperm storage.

Sperm banks and IVF:

• [3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4498171/ - History of IVF.
• [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_donation - A comprehensive article about sperm donation on Wikipedia.
• [5] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5924960/ - First sperm bank.

KKK titles:

• [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_titles_and_vocabulary - Honestly, read the titles… it’s absolute comedy gold.

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