9: The Capitol Siege

The Modernist Perspective Podcast

The storming riot that turned into an insurrection in the capitol building was a shocking event that hadn’t occurred in history since 1814. In this episode we discuss what led up to that shocking event and how the close minded cultish mentality of Trump supporters combined with the online world of conspiracy theories and right wing propagandists led to this horrible event taking place. 1:00 - A review of the events that took place on January 6th and how Trump’s rhetoric and lack of leadership caused the crowd to spiral out of control. Aside from the supporters who breached the capitol and the president who planned the event we discuss where else some of the fuel to the fire came from and who ultimately should be held responsible. 6:12 - The crucial difference between anarchist movements and extremist wings of political movements. Why the right rushed to blame Antifa for the capitol siege when even the most conspiracy prone “experts” on subject like Andy Ngo said definitively they were not there. 8:23 - Why impeachment was absolutely necessary even if a conviction is not guaranteed. Trump is the first president to be impeached twice and in a signal term no less. Also how Republican’s are abandoning the mantle of “party of personal responsibility” by refusing to give or take accountability in this matter. Here’s what it all means going forward. (Note: A lot of our ideas here are speculation since there has never been an impeachment trial after a presidential term has ended.) 17:41 - The Georgia Runoff election and all the hard grass roots work that went into Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock's impressive victory. Democrat’s now have control of the senate, the house of representatives, and the white house. What’s the hope for Georgia going forward? 20:34 - The hypocrisy of GOP talking about election fraud while Trump by his phone call extorting Raffensperger to find him more votes and Lindsay Graham by his phone call asking Raffensperger to throw out votes disenfranchising communities would have produced a fraudulent and counterfeit election result. 23:23 - My chat with Trump supporter and why I learned that engaging even with people who claim to want to understand the other side is a waste of time that only provides fuel for them to twist reality in order to reaffirm their cult mentality viewpoint and ignore even the most obvious double standards. Here’s our thoughts on the conversation with Trump supporter about Andy Ngo, his doxing methods, and how narratives particularly around chaotic situations can get twisted. 33:17 - How Andy Ngo’s work is dangerous and why many right wing extremists use it to excuse their violence and say because the left does this we have will take things up to an eleven and do it worse. In addition Andy has connections to right wing groups like the Proud Boys which would add credibility to many views that he is a propagandist rather than a journalist. 35:12 - How should the MAGA movement be handled going forward? What sort of punishments should there be for Trump’s enablers in congress and the extremist supporters who make up part of his core base. Justice is obviously needed to put this dark chapter behind us. 37:52 - Where does the country go from here and what does Joe Biden have to do going forward for both the country and to put the Democrat’s on strong footing to fight off these Republican’s growing more extremis in their beliefs. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/modernistperspective/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/modernistperspective/support