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Helping people working in all areas of the real estate industry find financial freedom. Join us as we interview the top minds in the industry to see how they used real estate in all ways, shapes and forms to find their own financial freedom. Whether you're a real estate agent, a real estate investor, a real estate syndicator, or you have a business inside of real estate, we want to highlight how you're using it to build time and financial freedom. Want to be a guest on REL Freedom? Contact u ...
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Kansas City Marketing Legends

Sam Meers and Mike Swenson

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The marketing business is like an iceberg. What the public experiences in a :30 second spot on television or online is the tip of the iceberg. So too is the piece of positive publicity about a company or product that someone reads or the piece of persuasive content that lands in their computer or phone. All just the tip of the iceberg. What’s below the proverbial tip is what this podcast is all about. It’s about the people behind the ideas and the effort that it takes to conceive and produce ...
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In each episode of All Things Disability we’ll speak with a leader in the disability space to learn how they promote inclusion and opportunities for people of all abilities. All Things Disability is produced by Northeast Arc, an organization that changes lives and discovers abilities for thousands of individuals with diverse abilities across Massachusetts. We help them become full participants in their communities: choosing for themselves how to live, learn, work, socialize, and play.
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Spend some time with Chris Boersma and James Houghton as we delve into what makes Time Attackers tick. We'll be interviewing some of Time Attacks fastest drivers and best builders as we try to figure out why we all love this fantastic sport.
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Wyatt Simon currently owns and operates a $20 Million vertically integrated real estate portfolio thanks to the BRRRR strategy. He was able to quit his W2 job at the age of 27 years old thanks to his real estate investing. He is the author of the book "0-100: A Real Estate Investor's Guide to Scaling A Rental Portfolio" and helps other people ditch…
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Election Season is upon us here in the United States. While Fia is traveling and preparing for Hurricane Milton, Gavin and Mike talk about how politics effects science, and the bad things that happen when politics interferes with science. Hurricane relief information: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/us/hurricane-helene-victims-aid.html Check you…
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Send us a text As they say, it's a wrap! Season One of Kansas City Marketing Legends is in the books. We are extremely grateful to all of you who have listened to our conversations with the legends of Season One and look forward to offering up more legends when we launch Season Two in early 2025. This final episode of our first season gives us a ch…
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Veena is the founding partner in Vive Funds, a commercial real estate firm specializing in conservative opportunities for investors. After graduating from the University of Illinois at Chicago with a degree in Finance, Veena pursued her passion in real estate. She now has over a decade in the industry, and has over $1 Billion in multi-family transa…
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We're postponing this episode to give Fia some time to get life in order after Hurricane Helene (she's okay). In the meantime, check out some ways to contribute to relief efforts if you're able: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/us/hurricane-helene-victims-aid.html Palaeocast Gaming Network video Gavin made about the new Pokemon Games: https://www…
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Ryan Chaw is a pharmacist turned real estate investor. By investing in 15 properties while working his full-time job, in August 2023 he was able to replace his pharmacist salary and walk away from his job to pursue real estate investing full-time. Growing up, Ryan saw the power of real estate investing from his Grandpa, who was able to acquire rent…
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Gino Barbaro is an investor, business owner, educator, entrepreneur & podcast host on 4 different shows. You may know him from "Jake & Gino", where along with his business partner Jake Stenziano, they teach others how to invest in multifamily real estate. Jake & Gino have a real estate portfolio of over 2,200 units transacted & $350 Million assets …
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Normally this would be a "Fia Takes The Wheel" episode,but she's busy doing science. In honor of that though, Gavin teaches us about swamps and their role in the ecosystems of today and Earth's history! Palaeocast Gaming Network video Gavin made about the new Pokemon Games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgFW91jPXc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠…
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Jason Muth is the founder of 3 real estate investment and short-term rental businesses. After working for large media corporations, Jason decided to leave the corporate world behind and welcome guests into short-term rentals full-time, so he turned his "side gig" into his primary focus. Along with his husband Rory Gill, Jason launched Prideaway Sta…
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When Jerry McCarthy arrived at Northeast Arc in 1979, the organization was supporting just a couple of hundred individuals in 19 communities. By the time he retired 36 years later, the agency was supporting more than 10,000 people in 200 communities. In this interview, McCarthy reflects on that growth — highlighting what it took and the challenges …
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Grant Francke is a self-made real estate entrepreneur and author who built an $8 Million real estate portfolio from humble beginnings. Working for a railroad company, Grant knew he needed to build something else on his own to be able to leave that work behind, be in business for himself, and build the life he wanted. He quit his job in 2019 and has…
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Who was the greatest paleontologist ever? We may just get our answer today with our discussion of Mary Anning. The famous fossil collector and early paleontologist lived a tough life that has been often misrepresented over the last 200+ years, so let's talk about her in some detail! Thanks again to the Common Descent Podcast for giving us a chance …
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Send us a text Becky Blades is the ultimate startist. Her second book is titled Start More Than You Can Finish. That certainly describes Becky to a tee. As you will hear into this episode of Kansas City Marketing Legends, Becky not only started a lot of things, but she finished a few as well. And how well she did finish. But as you will hear, after…
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Matthew J Gibbs is a business innovator and seasoned professional in the Canadian real estate & mortgage industry. He's the drier behind a nationwide online mortgage brokerage, The Great Canadian Mortgage Co. His mission is to simplify & expedite the mortgage process to ensure clients have access to the best financing options available. He's levera…
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Justin Udy's real estate career began on the mortgage side, where he began buying and renovating homes. He eventually got his real estate license and was named "Rookie of the Year". He continued to grow, consistently placing among the top 1% of salespeople nationwide and is ranked in the Top 10 producers globally for Century 21 and among the Top 20…
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Continuing our march through Earth's history, today we're talking about the Oligocene Epoch! A time when Earth sure looked a heck of a lot like today, but with some very noticeable differences, like the grass! What do I mean by that? Let's find out! YouTube Playlist link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAt3VarqxmjVLGbTUnk8ednFMcIGORtli Pala…
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Send us a text So, three ad guys are sitting around in one of their homes one summer talking about how to create a new approach in the marketing business. No this is not the start of a joke. It’s exactly how the world’s largest agency was born right here in Kansas City. Scott McCormick and his founding partners, John Valentine, and Craig Ligabel, l…
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Mike Gengler became a real estate agent and got his license in 2020. He started out working with residential clients, but pretty quickly realized that working with investors and eventually becoming an investor himself better aligned with his future goals. Hear Mike share his journey to building a portfolio of over 200 units and $6.5M in assets unde…
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We have some exciting news to share! With a recent closing, REL Freedom's Mike Swenson has now surpassed 200 Units owned in 22 months! How did he do it? What wisdom does he have to help you on your journey? Tune into this week's episode as he walks through some of the key things to help you move to the next goal in real estate. Follow Mike 👇 http:/…
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Gavin and Fia talk about the best (according to Fia) invertebrates out there; clams and their relatives! Do they live up to the hype? Let's find out! Palaeocast Gaming Network video Gavin made about the new Pokemon Games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgFW91jPXc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ …
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Send us a text Pasquale Trozzolo, without a doubt, founded one of our city’s premier agencies. Trozzolo Communications Group is an exemplary example of a family business. It also is a company that has recognized over the years how to grow through smart acquisitions and how to keep the principals of those they acquired to stay involved. On this epis…
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If you live in their franchised territory, inevitably you have seen billboards and commercials for "We Buy Ugly Houses" also known as HomeVestors of America, Inc. They are the leading home buyer in the country, helping more than 10,000 people sell their homes every year. What does it look like to run one of their franchises? Jeff Hotz is a top fran…
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Clint Harris originally was in medical sales and used real estate as a way to build income & wealth on the side. He built a portfolio of single-family homes, BRRRR's, small Multi-Family, short-term rentals. You name it, he's dabbled in it. What he found was all of these may have helped build income & wealth, yet didn't necessarily give the location…
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In this particularly gross episode, Gavin talks to Fia about parasites and the various disgusting, albeit very interesting, lifestyles that they live. Palaeocast Gaming Network video Gavin made about the new Pokemon Games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgFW91jPXc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠…
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Send us a text What’s it like to have your dad be your boss? Well, our guest today on Marketing Legends of Kansas City can tell us. Andy Fletcher worked for his dad at Fletcher Mayo and learned a thing or two there about the marketing business, especially in the agriculture arena. But Andy has stories to tell us as he became in his words, a nomad i…
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Amir Khan is a published composer who bootstrapped growing a music school to a $300,000/year business. Nearing retirement age, he decided to put together a 5 year plan to own 80 single family homes free and clear in 5 years. He has substantial real estate experience as a landlord, wholesaler, flipper, new construction operator and property manager.…
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Scott A Stanfield started his professional path by earning a PhD in Engineering, which led to 15 years as a research scientist and the Air Force Research Laboratory. He published 14 scientific journal articles and presented over 30 papers at scientific conferences. However, his desire to live life on his terms led him to real estate in 2010. He sta…
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On this episode of Mike Takes The Wheel, Mike tells us about Ray Chapman, the only player to die as the result of a professional baseball game. Palaeocast Gaming Network video Gavin made about the new Pokemon Games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgFW91jPXc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠…
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Send us a text Chances are more than a few of you have Landa Williams to thank for a job or for an employee hire in a Kansas City agency or company. And even if you didn’t, you absolutely know a few people who did. LandaJob is her company’s name, and she will tell us how that came about on this edition of the Marketing Legends of Kansas City. Plus,…
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Tabatha Thorell is a native of rural Nebraska, is a proud mom to 5 girls, and is also a dynamic speaker, best-selling co-author, life and business coach, podcaster, and seasoned real estate investor. Tabatha and her high school sweetheart started investing in college by renting out part of a house to friends, and their path has built and grown from…
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For this follow-up episode, Gavin is joined by Sierra and Rudy from the Denver Museum of Nature & Science, as well as Lora Bird, owner of Nest Art Collective tattoo shop in Denver, Colorado.YouTube lecture that Lora, Sierra and Rudy gave about the tattooing: https://youtu.be/dGg73w5wwOM?feature=sharedDenver Museum of Nature & Science socials: Faceb…
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Jacki Semerau Tait is known as the "Queen of Relational Real Estate." Today she is a top producing Realtor and real estate coach, having founded Team Three 23 Real Estate Group with Realty ONE Mountain Desert in the Flagstaff, Arizona area. After losing her house and having literally $4 to her name, Jacki found herself needing to recreate herself a…
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Gavin, Fia, and Mike have had a busy few weeks! Early June is always a busy time for us, because we all volunteer for the same youth leadership organization called HOBY. We've all been volunteering for this organization for over 10 years and in this episode we talk about why we do it, and why you should volunteer in your local communities as well. …
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Send us a text There can be no dispute that Ewing Kaufmann is one of the most impactful and influential business leaders in Kansas City history. In this episode of Kansas City Marketing legends, we hear from one of our own legends what it was like to work for Mr. K. at Marion Labs and the business lessons he learned that helped him run his own publ…
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Kevin Amolsch is a successful real estate investor and private money lender. He originally served in the US Army for 4 years, earned a degree in Finance, and worked as a Mortgage Bond Analyst with Wall Street for 2 years. He founded Pine Financial Group in 2008, has raised $135M in private capital in 4 funds and has helped to close on over 2,400 tr…
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Bradley Dorsey is a former real estate agent and contractor turned successful house flipper and investor, having bought and sold over $50 million worth of real estate in just 5 years. He has mastered the art of turning properties into profitable investments. He discusses the intricacies of real estate investing, flipping, and the secrets to achievi…
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Send us a text Bill Fromm was a born entrepreneur. He ran a dry-cleaning delivery service in college and his dream was to come back to Kansas City and start an advertising agency. He made that dream come true and opened the doors of his agency on June 1, 1964. Today that agency is Barkley, and it is one of the leading independent agencies in the co…
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Brian Grimes is an Ivy League educated real estate entrepreneur and coach. After graduating from Columbia University, Brian originally had a career in Financial Planning. In 2015, he launched his own real estate development company in his hometown of Philadelphia and has gone on to renovate 300+ rental properties all across the country using the BR…
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Gavin is joined by a pair of great scientists from the Denver Museum of Nature & Science to talk about helicopter science, and how to do international science ethically. Madagascar Ankizy Fund website: www.ankizy.org Palaeocast Gaming Network video Gavin made about the new Pokemon Games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgFW91jPXc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠…
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"Do today what your future self will thank you for." This is a motto that Justin Martinez lives by. Justin is a former Sergeant in the US Army, Ranger qualified. After his time in the Army, he attended Arizona State University, where he received a BS in Business Entrepreneurship and a Masters in Real Estate Development. While in college he also sta…
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Send us a text Hallmark is not just one of Kansas City’s most revered companies, but it has also contributed to the overall growth of the creative community in the city. One of the best examples of that is the partnership that developed between Whitey Kuhn and the late Dale Wittenborn. The two met while working at Hallmark and then one day they sta…
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Ed Kowalski felt the crash of the real estate market back in 2008 as a real estate investor. After filing for Chapter 7 bankruptcy, he didn't just bounce back, he soared to new heights. Through determination and resilience, Ed became one of the top REO agents in the Northwest region, selling $10 million annually for the next 5 years. Ed has complet…
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Morgan Anderson is the founder & CEO of Golden Lion Tax Solutions. She is also the author of the book "Tax Debt Rule #1: There's Always A Solution." In almost 25 years, she has seen it all in solving past-due taxes owed to the IRS. Oftentimes her clients come to her scared, feeling hopeless, and don't know where to find answers. Her goal is to reac…
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Hawks, eagles and their other predatory bird relatives are some of the most iconic and charismatic birds in the world. Let's take a look at what makes them cool, and what we know about how they got that way! Palaeocast Gaming Network video Gavin made about the new Pokemon Games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgFW91jPXc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠F…
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Send us a text Listeners to the Marketing Legends of Kansas City may find it hard to believe that there was a time when a handshake was all that was needed to create a decades long partnership between a global retailer and an ad agency in Kansas City. But that’s one story that our guest today can tell. Bob Bernstein started his agency in 1964. The …
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Jim Manning's first job out of school was working for a self-made billionaire. He had everything you could ever want, except this person with all the money in the world was absolutely miserable. This caused Jim to set out to find a way to be financially free without sacrificing his personal life. He founded multiple real estate companies while stil…
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Send us a text Kansas City has a rich and colorful history when it comes to our Marketing, Advertising and Public Relations community. We talked for a while about how to start capturing the stories. We quickly decided we did not want to write a book, so we landed on an even better idea – let’s start a podcast! Our idea is simple. Let’s reach out to…
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4 years is what it took Grant Warrington to become a millionaire from real estate investing, once he started. His journey started with limited knowledge and no money, much like many of us! He quite his 24 year construction job to go full-time into property management, overseeing 800 units and 100+ rehabs. Today, he and his wife personally own and m…
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Gavin takes Mike and Fia through the very American history of the largest natural history museum in the world; the National Museum of Natural History, aka The Smithsonian. Lookup whether your favorite museum has Native American remains that it needs to return home: https://projects.propublica.org/repatriation-nagpra-database/ Palaeocast Gaming Netw…
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