C.O.B. Tuesday is a weekly one-hour talk show that serves as a knowledge pipeline for the energy industry and the energy curious. We host honest, timely, conversations with people we believe can improve the discussion, can provide new perspectives, can share unique insights into key energy issues, and can discuss inventive, pragmatic solutions for a stronger energy future. Produced by Veriten.
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"We Hadn’t Built A Nuclear Unit In The US From Start To Finish In 30 Years" With John Williams, John Kotek & Bill Flores
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We are thrilled to share this COBT episode recorded live from Plant Vogtle featuring John Williams, Senior Vice President of Technical Services and External Affairs at Southern Nuclear, John Kotek, Senior Vice President of Policy Development and Public Affairs at the Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI), and Bill Flores, Vice Chairman of ERCOT and Verite…
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"It’s Doing All Of The Above" Featuring Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison & John Rutherford, KBH Energy Center
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We were honored this week to welcome Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Rutherford for this Special Edition COBT. Senator Hutchison is a Founding Member of the KBH Energy Center at the University of Texas and has had a distinguished career in both the public and private sectors, including serving as the US Ambassador to NATO. We previously had t…
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"Argentina May Be Unrecognizable 10 Years From Now, Like It Used To Be" Featuring Bill Von Gonten, WDVGE
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Today we were delighted to welcome our good friend Bill Von Gonten, Founder and CEO of W.D. Von Gonten Engineering (WDVGE). Bill is a renowned oil and gas expert and entrepreneur. He founded W.D. Von Gonten & Co. in 1995, pioneering the volumetric assessment of US gas shales. In 2013, Bill established W.D. Von Gonten Laboratories, a core testing fa…
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"One Stop Shopping For Energy Tech" Featuring HETI, Rice Alliance, Halliburton Labs & Greentown Labs
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We are thrilled to bring you this Special Edition COBT, featuring an exciting preview of the upcoming Houston Energy and Climate Startup Week taking place from September 9th – 13th. We had the pleasure of visiting with the event’s key organizers including Jane Stricker, Senior VP Energy Transition and Executive Director of the Houston Energy Transi…
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"Industrial Demand For Gas In Europe Will Never Go Back To Pre-Energy Crisis Levels" With Samantha Dart, Goldman Sachs
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Today we had the pleasure of hosting Samantha Dart, Head of Global Natural Gas Research at Goldman Sachs. Samantha first joined Goldman Sachs in 2006 as an energy strategist and returned to the firm in 2018. Between her tenures at Goldman Sachs, she served as Global Head of Gas and Power Research at Noble Group and as Head of Gas & Power Research a…
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“This Will Be The First Year Since 1958 Without an Offshore Federal Lease Sale” Featuring Erik Milito, NOIA
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Today we were thrilled to welcome back Erik Milito, President of the National Ocean Industries Association (NOIA). Erik has served as President of NOIA since 2019 following 17 years in several leadership roles at the American Petroleum Institute and prior experience as an attorney in the Solicitor’s Office of the US Department of the Interior. Erik…
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"Israel Is An Energy Island" Featuring Julia Weller, Energy Law International
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For today’s discussion, we were pleased to host Julia Weller, Principal at Energy Law International. Julia has worked in electricity and natural gas regulation and transactions for over 30 years. She served at both Hunton & Williams and Pierce Atwood before starting Energy Law International in 2017. Energy Law International advises governments, pri…
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"The Difference Between Genius And Crazy Is Success" Featuring Gerald Kepes and Sudan Maccio
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Today we were pleased to host Gerald Kepes, President of Competitive Energy Strategies, and Sudan Maccio, Chief Legal Counsel of PetroTal, for a discussion focused on Venezuelan politics, energy and economics. Jerry has over 40 years of experience as a consultant and petroleum geologist and is a regular contributor to Al-Monitor on the geopolitics …
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"We Grew Up With The Soviet Union, They Are Growing Up With Climate Change" With Dr. David Gattie, University of Georgia
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Today we had the pleasure of hosting our good friend Dr. David Gattie, Associate Professor of Engineering at the University of Georgia. In addition to his role in the College of Engineering, David is a Senior Fellow at the University’s Center for International Trade and Security. David has a robust background including 18 years at the University of…
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"Republicans Don’t Accept The Science And Democrats Don’t Accept The Math" Featuring US Senator Mary Landrieu, D-LA
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Today we had the honor of hosting former Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana. Senator Landrieu served for three terms from 1997 to 2015 and chaired the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, the Small Business and Entrepreneurship Committee and the Homeland Security Appropriations Committee. She also served on the Armed Forces Committee. Dur…
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"When You Build A Data Center, You Need 800 Electricians" Featuring Sean McGarvey, North America’s Building Trades Unions
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Today we were thrilled to be joined by Sean McGarvey, President of North America’s Building Trades Unions (NABTU), to discuss a critical topic: the nation’s energy workforce. Sean was elected to his position as President in 2012 and first started his building trades career with the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades in 1981. In addit…
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"The Mosh Pit Of Complexity" Featuring George Bilicic, Lazard
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Today we were delighted to welcome back George Bilicic for an engaging discussion on the current power and energy landscape. George serves as Vice Chairman and Global Head of Power, Energy and Infrastructure at Lazard. In his long and distinguished career, George has over 20 years of experience at Lazard in the investment banking business with prev…
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"You’ll Be Timber Experts By The End Of This" Featuring Russell Hagen, Weyerhaeuser
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Today we had the very exciting and interesting opportunity to visit with Russell Hagen, Senior Vice President and Chief Development Officer of Weyerhaeuser. Russell is responsible for Weyerhaeuser’s real estate, energy and natural resources businesses. Prior to his appointment as Chief Development Officer, Russell served as Chief Financial Officer …
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"We’ve Grown 83% In 20 Years" Featuring Reginald DesRoches, Rice University
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Today we had the honor of hosting Reginald DesRoches, President of Rice University, in Veriten’s offices at the Ion. Reggie assumed the role of President in July 2022, after previously serving as Rice’s Provost and the Dean of the Engineering School. Additionally, Reggie serves as a professor of civil and environmental engineering, and as a profess…
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"The Mexican Elite Is Absolutely In Shock" Featuring Dr. Francisco Monaldi & Dr. Tony Payan, Baker Institute
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Today we were thrilled to welcome back Dr. Francisco Monaldi, Director of the Latin America Energy Program, along with his colleague Dr. Tony Payan, Director of the Center for the U.S. and Mexico, with Rice University’s Baker Institute. Francisco last joined us on COBT in December 2022 (episode linked here) and is an expert on Latin American energy…
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"The Most Important Day Of The 20th Century" Featuring Alex Kershaw, Author of "The First Wave"
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We are sending out this Special Edition COBT at 6:30 AM CT. We are doing so because 80 years ago today, at 6:30 AM at Omaha Beach in Normandy, American troops (at an average age of 22) landed as part of the largest amphibious assaults in all of history. Over 4,000 Allied troops died this day 80 years ago as part of the effort to free Europe from th…
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"Running At 150 MPH Every Day" Featuring Lynn Calder, INEOS Automotive
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Today we had the pleasure of hosting Lynn Calder, CEO of INEOS Automotive, for an engaging discussion on vehicles, decarbonization, and the future of transportation. As you may have heard, INEOS Automotive has just launched a new vehicle called the Grenadier. Lynn is a fellow energy enthusiast and brings a fascinating background, having previously …
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"Do You Hate Emissions Or Do You Hate Fossil Fuels?" Featuring Congressman John Curtis, Utah
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On this Memorial Day, we are excited to share a Special Edition with Representative John Curtis (R-UT). Rep. Curtis has been serving in Congress for four terms, beginning in 2017, and is currently running for the U.S. Senate. He serves on the Energy and Commerce Committee including as Vice-Chair of the Energy, Climate and Grid Security Subcommittee…
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"The Big Three: Oil, Gold, and Copper" Featuring Max Layton, Citi
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Today we had the pleasure of visiting with Max Layton, Global Head of Commodities Research at Citi. Prior to joining Citi in 2017, Max held notable leadership positions including Managing Director and Head of European Commodities Research at Goldman Sachs as well as Deputy Head of Commodities Research at Macquarie. We have been eager to examine cop…
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"The West Is Addicted To Russian Oil & Gas" Featuring Alexander Zaslavsky, Horizon Engage & Gabe Collins, Rice University
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Today we had the pleasure of welcoming back Alexander Zaslavsky, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Horizon Engage. Alex established Horizon Engage in 2003 and specializes in energy politics in Russia and the former Soviet Union. Horizon Engage merges tech and geopolitical expertise to provide country insights, data on how sanctions and counter san…
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"If You Find Yourself In A Hole, The First Step Is To Stop Digging Deeper" Featuring Jim Matheson, NRECA
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For today’s discussion we were pleased to host Jim Matheson, CEO of the National Rural Electric Cooperative Association (NRECA). Jim’s distinguished background includes roles in both the public and private sectors. Prior to joining the NRECA in 2016, he served in the public policy practice at Squire Patton Boggs based in Washington, D.C. Jim was el…
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"I'm Not Going To Vote For You Because You Keep Raising My Energy Prices" Featuring David Holt, Consumer Energy Alliance
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Today we had the pleasure of hosting David Holt, President of the Consumer Energy Alliance (CEA), for an important discussion on electricity affordability and reliability for consumers. David’s background is in government affairs with over thirty years of experience working for state and federal agencies and directing outreach and advocacy efforts.…
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"No One Knows Who Is Waiting In The Wings" Featuring David Sacks, Council On Foreign Relations
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Today we had the pleasure of hosting David Sacks, Fellow for Asia Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), for a comprehensive discussion on China and the intricate dynamics of US-China, US-Taiwan, and cross-Strait relations. Prior to joining the CFR in 2017, David served at the American Institute in Taiwan focused on political military a…
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"It’s A Good Time To Be A Command and Control Economy" Featuring Matt Parker and Alex Melvin, Mobius Risk Group
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Today we were delighted to host Matt Parker, Managing Director and Head of Strategy, alongside Alex Melvin, Commodity Risk Analyst, with Mobius Risk Group for an extensive discussion on commodity and power markets, as well as volatility and risk management in particular. Matt joined Mobius in 2018 and oversees fundamental analytics, decision strate…
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"We’re The Best Looking Horse In The Glue Factory" Featuring Maya MacGuineas, Committee For A Responsible Federal Budget
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Today we were thrilled to be joined by Maya MacGuineas, President of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), to discuss a critical yet often ignored topic: the US national debt and budget deficits. Prior to her tenure at the CRFB starting in 2004, Maya served at the Brookings Institution and on Wall Street. Maya is a native Washingto…
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"Switching From Capex to Opex" Featuring Derek Podhaizer, Barclays
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Today we had the pleasure of hosting our good friend Derek Podhaizer, Vice President of Equity Research at Barclays. Derek started his research career at the firm in 2014 and leads coverage of U.S. Onshore Energy Services and Geothermal. Given the recent flurry of activity within the services sector, including Tuesday’s SLB-ChampionX announcement (…
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"Precious Power Has To Be Utilized For The Brain" Featuring Jun Nishizawa, Mitsubishi Corporation
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We had a fantastic session today with Jun Nishizawa, Executive Vice President and CEO of the Natural Gas Group at Mitsubishi Corporation. Jun joined Mitsubishi Corporation in 1986 as an oil trader and has since held a variety of roles in Tokyo and overseas. As CEO of the Natural Gas Group, Jun is responsible for Mitsubishi Corporation’s LNG busines…
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"The Overarching Objective Should Be A US-EU Super-Bloc" Featuring Peter Orszag, Lazard
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We are thrilled to share this Special Edition COBT episode featuring Peter Orszag, CEO of Lazard. Peter assumed the role as Lazard CEO in the fall of 2023, after serving as CEO of Lazard’s Financial Advisory business. Prior to his tenure at Lazard, Peter’s wide-ranging career includes serving as Director of the Office of Management and Budget and a…
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"The Laws Of Physics And Thermodynamics And Economics Are Stubborn" Featuring Mike Wirth, Chevron
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Today we had the honor of hosting Mike Wirth, Chairman and CEO of Chevron. Mike’s journey at Chevron began as a design engineer in 1982 and since then, he has held senior leadership roles in several divisions of the company. Most recently, Mike served as the Vice Chairman of the Board of Directors and as Executive Vice President of Midstream and De…
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"A Call Of Awareness" Featuring Paul Dabbar, CEO, Bohr Quantum Technology and Former Under Secretary For Science, US DOE
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It was our privilege today to welcome Paul Dabbar, CEO of Bohr Quantum Technology. In addition to his position at Bohr, Paul is a Senior Research Scholar and Distinguished Visiting Fellow at Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, a Board Member of Dominion Energy, and a Contributor to the…
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"Almost No One Understands Load Growth" Featuring Jigar Shah, US DOE Loan Programs Office
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Today we had the pleasure of welcoming back Jigar Shah, Director of the U.S. Department of Energy Loan Programs Office (LPO). Jigar joined the LPO in 2021 and is the former founder of SunEdison and former co-founder of Generate Capital. As you may know, the LPO is equipped with more than $400 billion in loans and loan guarantees to help deploy inno…
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"The Grid Of The Future Is Being Written Here In Texas" Featuring Pat Wood, Hunt Energy Network
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Today we were thrilled to welcome our good friend Pat Wood, CEO of Hunt Energy Network. Pat’s extensive career in power and energy includes serving as Chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and Chairman of the Public Utility Commission of Texas during the administration of President George W. Bush. Additionally, he has held several in…
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"All Of California’s Damage Is Self-Inflicted" Featuring Susan Shelley, Southern California News Group
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One of the issues that we have become fascinated with over the last couple of years is power: power availability, power costs, power reliability, growth in demand for power, and the overall complexity of our power systems. We’ve also become extremely interested in how these power issues are meaningfully affecting states, countries and industries. W…
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"Never Ever Ever Make Yourself An Unreliable Supplier" Featuring Fred Hutchison, LNG Allies
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Today we had the pleasure of hosting Fred Hutchison, President and CEO of LNG Allies, for a comprehensive discussion on an important and timely topic, LNG. Fred founded LNG Allies in 2014 and is a leading spokesman for the US LNG export industry with over four decades of experience in government and public relations. LNG Allies is an independent, n…
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"Whoever Controls Lithium, Copper, Cobalt And Nickel Will Control The 21st Century Economy" Featuring Ernest Scheyder
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Today we had the very interesting opportunity to visit with Ernest Scheyder, Senior Correspondent at Thomson Reuters and author of the newly released book entitled "The War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power Our Lives." The book was officially published on January 30th and examines the multifaceted world of metals, mining, and p…
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"We Take The Energy And Power Networks We Have For Granted But We Do So At Our Extreme Peril" Featuring Robert Bryce
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For today’s discussion we were delighted to welcome back our good friend Robert Bryce. Robert is the author of six books (his most recent being "A Question of Power: Electricity and the Wealth of Nations"), host of the Power Hungry podcast, and a former journalist with more than 30 years of experience reporting on the energy sector. He is a frequen…
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"We Have To Be Prepared To Be Surprised" Featuring Dr. Dan Yergin, S&P Global
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We have been intrigued by some of the news coming out of the World Economic Forum (i.e. Davos) and have been on the lookout for someone who could give us an objective, independent summary and assessment of the gathering. We were elated to connect with our special friend Dr. Dan Yergin for such a discussion. While impossible to succinctly summarize …
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"The Era Of Flat Power Demand Is Over" Featuring Rob Gramlich, Grid Strategies
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Today we had the pleasure of hosting Rob Gramlich, Founder and President of Grid Strategies. Rob previously oversaw transmission and power market policy for the American Wind Energy Association as SVP and Interim CEO, served as Economic Advisor to FERC Chairman Pat Wood III, and was Senior Economist at PJM Interconnection. Grid Strategies is a powe…
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"This Is Like Quantum Mechanics: If You Think You Understand It, You Don’t" Featuring Dr. Lars Schernikau and Rob West
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Today was a big one – the first regular COBT of the year, and also the second anniversary of Veriten. Accordingly, we thought about something that would be truly special to mark the occasion and reached back for two COBT All-Stars… on the same show! Today’s episode features two great friends: Dr. Lars Schernikau, energy economist, entrepreneur, com…
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"An Optimist Who Worries" Featuring United States Senator John Kennedy
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We hope you all had a fantastic holiday season and that you are excited about the New Year! We had a special guest join us yesterday to kick off 2024. We have been lucky enough to get to know a number of Senators, Governors and Congressional Representatives over the past few years. One that we have been getting to know better recently is Senator Jo…
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"Our House View Is You Need All Of It" Featuring Brian Lee, Goldman Sachs
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Today we were thrilled to visit with Brian Lee, Vice President and Head of US Clean Technology Research at Goldman Sachs, for 2023’s final COBT episode. Brian has been with the firm since 2011 and offers a unique vantage point with his experience covering cleantech. Recently, Brian and his team released their 2024 Americas Clean Technology Outlook …
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"If We're Not At The Table, It's Russia Or China" Featuring Amy Roma, Hogan Lovells
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We had a fantastic session today with Amy Roma, Partner and Global Energy Practice Leader at Hogan Lovells. Amy has served at Hogan Lovells since 2007 and as you will hear, her work focuses on the commercial nuclear energy industry. Her efforts have earned her recognition as one of the Top 10 most innovative lawyers in North America by the Financia…
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"No More Money!" Featuring Fernando Oris de Roa, Entrepreneur and Former Ambassador of Argentina to the United States
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Today we were very fortunate to host Fernando Oris de Roa for an insightful discussion on Argentina and the recent dramatic election result there. Fernando served as the Ambassador of Argentina to the United States in 2018 and 2019 is currently an Independent Director of Allkem. He is an accomplished entrepreneur and business leader in Argentina an…
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"If You Want To Deliver Good Things, You Do It By Working With People" Featuring David Whitehouse, Offshore Energies UK
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Today we had the pleasure of hosting David Whitehouse, CEO of Offshore Energies UK (OEUK), for a comprehensive discussion on UK and North Sea energy. David joined OEUK in January of this year and previously held senior roles at CNR International UK and Shell, working on projects from deepwater frontier developments in the Gulf of Mexico to managing…
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"Happy Thanksgiving From Five Thousand Feet Of Water" Featuring The Transocean Deepwater Atlas Team
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We’re so pleased today to be able to bring you what is now the fourth in a series of COBT Thanksgiving episodes. When we think about the joys of Thanksgiving Day, it’s striking how many of those things are connected to energy. The energy to warm our homes, to cook our food, to help our families fly and drive to see us, to power everything from the …
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"We’re In Deterrence Of War Mode Right Now" Featuring Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison and Secretary Dan Brouillette
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We are pleased to share with you a unique and special COBT episode. Late last week, The KBH Energy Center in partnership with Vinson & Elkins and Veriten, hosted a discussion in Houston featuring Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison and Secretary Dan Brouillette. Senator Hutchison is a Founding Member of The KBH Energy Center and most recently served as th…
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"Building The Grid We’ll Leave For Our Grandchildren" Featuring Jim Robb, North American Electric Reliability Corporation
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We have been paying a lot of attention to and thinking a lot about power, power costs, power reliability, power systems, access to power, etc., and have focused a number of episodes on these issues. Earlier this June, we had a great conversation with John Bear, CEO of MISO (episode linked here) and in that discussion, we asked John what the country…
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"You Say Pragmatism, I Say Humility" Featuring Dr. Alexis Crow, PwC
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Today we were thrilled to be joined by Dr. Alexis Crow, Partner and Global Head of the Geopolitical Investing Practice at PwC. Alexis is a Council Member of the World Economic Forum, a Member of the Council on Foreign Relations, a Senior Fellow at Columbia Law School, and a Former Senior Fellow of the Atlantic Council. Her research is focused on fi…
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"You Get The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly" Featuring Walter Isaacson, Author of "Elon Musk"
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We were honored this past week to welcome back renowned author Walter Isaacson for a Special Edition COBT episode. Walter is a Professor of History at Tulane University and a Distinguished Fellow at the Aspen Institute. He is also a good friend and someone with whom we are always thrilled to visit. In his wide-ranging career, Walter has served as t…
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"A Forecast, Not A Scenario" Featuring Chris Birdsall, Exxon Mobil Corporation
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Today we had the pleasure of visiting with Chris Birdsall, Director of Economics and Energy at Exxon Mobil Corporation. Chris joined Exxon as an engineer in 1996 and has served in several areas of the organization including manufacturing, technology, and commercial roles over the past 27 years. For the last five years, Chris has lead a team of econ…
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