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The Enneagram and Marriage Podcast, hosted by Christa Hardin, MA, is rooted in two decades of experience counseling and coaching couples. On top of her expert marriage advice, Christa uses the Enneagram to add another layer of understanding in how we work as individuals and gives us deeper insight into how we connect and shine together in marriage and relationships across the collective community.
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The Enneagram isn't just about understanding personality types; it's a pathway to healing and growth. Our tagline, "The Enneagram doesn't define you, but it does bring restoration," encapsulates our philosophy. While offering valuable insights, it doesn't confine us to rigid categories; it empowers self-awareness and transformation. Join us as we explore how this system reshapes thinking and habits, guiding you toward fulfillment. Dive into insightful discussions, expert interviews, and prac ...
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Love Thinks Podcast

Dr. John Van Epp + Dr. Morgan Cutlip

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Join two relationship experts and a father-daughter team, Dr. John Van Epp and Dr. Morgan Cutlip, as they take on real relationship questions and deliver practical guidance with actionable advice—all in short, digestible episodes. Their books and relationship courses have empowered millions of singles, couples, and parents to follow their hearts without losing their minds.
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We don't always know what to do when storms hit us, whether bad weather hits us internally or externally (such as the current hurricane season), but here on today's mini pod, Christa gives everyone the much-needed reminder of doing what we can do (and even should do) when choices are otherwise limited. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ix3o_O_CAcc…
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Even if you're lined up with meaningful work you enjoy, if you're burning the wick at both ends in any way, your central nervous system doesn't know how to respond and your body may be experiencing trauma. If you're feeling weary on the journey of life or faith at all, make sure you take a deep breath with us and shift back into health as we invite…
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In this inspiring episode of "The Everyday Runner," Erin welcomes Jared Sklar, who shares his remarkable transformation from being out of shape to becoming a dedicated endurance athlete. The conversation kicks off with Jared’s early experiences in team sports and the pivotal moment that shifted his focus to cycling, setting the stage for his eventu…
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In your marriages, sometimes you may feel like the only purpose you have is just to get by. Today’s episode offers tips for each and every type to not just survive, but to thrive with self-care, connection, but also specific purpose so they can live out their beautiful God-given dreams together and individually as well. Tune in here for just the mi…
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Often you can’t quite put your finger on what’s wrong in your marriage but you know you’re floating in opposite directions, drifting apart, and headed into a danger zone. This episode with marriage and leadership coach Lance Howard, Enneagram 9 (9-6 pairing) is full of great insights and tips so you can find more about your God-given gifts and goal…
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Conversations around furniture are frequent in couple's sessions. Where couples sleep, how they sit, where they eat - all of this carries meaning to every couple. In other words, the setting for the stories we tell matters. How does the way you set up your home matter to your marriage? There are many intimacies lost and found in the way we organize…
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Today's must-listen podcast episode is a vital piece of the sex talk you never got - a conversation about sexual issues as they show up in almost every marriage as a result of shame and contempt born of most men's first encounters with sex because of the earliest introductions to sex via pornography and other counterfeit distortions with marriage t…
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Today I'm talking about my personal shift—how I moved from identifying as an Enneagram Type 8 to discovering I’m actually a Type 3. I’ll also share some fun highlights from our Season 4 podcast stats and give you a sneak peek into what’s coming next for the show. Join me as we reflect on the growth, the changes, and the exciting new direction we’re…
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In this episode of The Everyday Runner, Erin welcomes Brent Oakes, who shares his inspiring journey from being a competitive childhood athlete to overcoming significant health challenges and rekindling his passion for running. Brent opens up about the physical and emotional toll of injuries and how they shaped his life, emphasizing the importance o…
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In our quest to ensure our needs are met, it’s very common to start the work by getting self-care and then getting irritated with our spouse when they don’t know exactly how to meet our needs. Today’s mini-podcast helps you to get unstuck when you’re in process and trying to move through conflict in healthy ways and then find a disconnection ensues…
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Trauma is so psychologically destructive largely because our brain is not able to create a coherent and empowering narrative out of what happened without support. Today on the podcast, writing teacher and coach Mara Eller, MA, Type 4 (4-7 pairing), gives us that support as she shows us how at the right time and with the right support, we can relive…
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I've always been drawn to the Yin-Yang symbol because it beautifully illustrates the balance of opposing forces, with those small dots reminding us that even in the light, there's a trace of darkness—and within the dark, a glimmer of light remains. And I'm elated to have a conversation with Jackie Brewster from Enneagram with JB today to explore th…
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Today in this E + M special, we take the justice-fighting lens together as a community to bring awareness to the issue of sex trafficking and sexual exploitation in relationships and around the world. We have a leading world expert with us to talk about it today, Exodus Cry founder, filmmaker, and artist, Benjamin Nolot (Enneagram 4), who shares th…
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Culturally, it's very hard for busy, overwhelmed individuals to take time to sit with and process emotions. Yet today's podcast guest, renowned trauma and StoryWork therapist Adam Young, (The Place We Find Ourselves podcast) Enneagram 8 (8-9 pairing), encourages us to do exactly that - sit in the hard and allow yourself time and attention to what's…
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It can be annoying to be in a liminal space. Not only are liminal spaces necessary, but they are so beneficial. And today I'm having a conversation with Mike Brown, Pastor and Author of Liminal: Transitions, Thresholds and Waiting With God in the Space Between, to talk about the benefits of liminal space. * Purchase Liminal: Transitions, Thresholds…
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In this episode of the Everyday Runner podcast, host Erin Mayer sits down with Alyssa Ford, a multifaceted individual with a passion for running and helping others achieve their fitness goals. Alyssa, who holds a doctorate in physical therapy and wears many hats as a run coach and strength coach, opens up about her own running journey and the valua…
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Every couple desperately needs to know how to repair, yet few know the steps for doing so. Finding one another after a conflict is hard, since couples typically either self-protect by imploding while still hurt or by lashing out. Today Christa educates you on one-to-one tactics you can use to bring life back into the relationship. In today's E + M …
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It's one thing to be vulnerable by choice and quite another to find yourself unwittingly so. Today, we discuss the healthiest ways to share our human vulnerabilities with expert Raleigh Sadler, Enneagram Type 6 (The MercyCast ) in a rich conversation on what vulnerability is and how hard it is to be vulnerable in relationships, especially when we'v…
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There are many advantages to using the Enneagram, but there are also some dangers to be on the lookout for. That's why I'm glad to be joined by Amy Wicks of Simply Wholehearted to discuss five dangers of using the Enneagram. Amy is an Enneagram Seven and an Enneagram Coach. Her wholehearted coaching aims to rid individuals of the lie of comparison,…
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When spouses don't align on their deepest core values, it's hard to get along and yet many spouses find it hard to articulate what those core values even are for them. Today Christa walked you through a few simple exercises to get in touch with the values inside of you so you can live most authentically as yourself, and also learn to appreciate tho…
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When heartbreak happens, you're not alone. Yet often our first human instincts involve shutting down fast and then isolating ourselves, spilling grief into unhealthy corners such as overworking, overly seeking commendation, or just disconnecting from God and others in our lament. Today we talk with author and poet Tanner Olson, Type 3 (3-5 pairing)…
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I know from personal experience of how waiting seasons can be the catalyst for us healing our trauma and hurt. And that's why I'm glad to be joined by Brian Lee to talk about using our waiting seasons to our advantage by leaning into our brokenness to maximize our healing from trauma and hurt. * Learn more about Brian: gospelcenteredenneagram.com *…
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On this episode Erin welcomes Allison Felsenthal, founder of Runwithalli, and she shares her running journey and how she transitioned from corporate America to the fitness world. She started running for stress relief and eventually ran casual ultra-marathons around the perimeter of New York City. Allison's love for running grew, and she qualified f…
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Each of us has emotional parts of ourselves that are difficult to access - we are busy and survival does not allow for constant and deep self-attunement. Today, in this powerful E + M mini-episode, Christa welcomes you to find your healthiest rhythms with yourself as we walk through several simple self-attunement exercises as you welcome a new seas…
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Eighty percent of adults say they want to write a book, but getting started can be intimidating. How does one even go about starting? How do you get an agent, and what are the first steps? Can you get help in the process? Today in this fascinating episode of the E + M pod, we're answering all these questions and so many more about the steps to maki…
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Sometimes we have to just be. That's why I am glad to be joined by Tyler Zach, Enneagram Coach and Pastor, to talk about the invitation to just be for each type. Do you want to gain more confidence to use the Enneagram as a Christian? Join Tyler in exploring the real origins of the Enneagram as he debunks common myths and misunderstandings along th…
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It’s hard to be brave to step into our calling sometimes, especially if there's fear that God won’t show up for us. When we have heroes in real life or from our ancient narratives alike, we can be assured that we have a heritage of faith, tenacity, and even wins of epic proportions. Today we are joined by exemplary scholar, Dr. Sandra Richter, PhD,…
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After the honeymoon years, it's easy to miss one another and see one another as enemies in relationship versus fighting for one another's dreams and aligning together. Lauren Handel Zander, Enneagram 8w7, helps you see things differently and then to find the life you're intentionally seeking together. Lauren, the developer of the highly esteemed Ha…
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Personally, my sexual subtype has always been the weakest of my subtypes. And I've been pondering some things to help strengthen, and because I know one thing to be true... if I'm thinking it, there's probably a thousand other people who are thinking the same thing, I just knew that I had to sit down and talk to Christa about it. * Purchase a copy …
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In this episode, Erin chats with Jenn Marsan, a health and fitness enthusiast who has undergone a significant weight loss journey. They discuss Jen's experience as an everyday runner and how running has become a form of escape for her. Jen shares her story of starting her fitness journey after a wake-up call during her first pregnancy and how she h…
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Couples work involves not just the external families each partner comes from, but also the internal systems each brings to the relationship. IFS (Internal Family Systems) research reminds us that couples can grow these internal systems with self-awareness and compassion individually and together. Today Christa offers the E + M audience a few basic …
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It’s important that as we live out our day-to-day life that we also make sure these daily rituals we are taking part in are also truly bringing our deepest core gifts and values to light. When we are deeply intentional with rooting ourselves in our core values and then shaping our marriage relationship and social giving around that, we find the dee…
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Living wholly means to be balanced in mental, physical, and spiritual health. And in today's episode, I'm sharing practical strategies and personal tips that help me maintain this vital equilibrium, creating a connected triangle of well-being. ——— * Help grow the podcast: enneagramrestored.com/tipjar * Download free resources: enneagramrestored.com…
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Many would argue that the Enneagram is an extremely helpful tool to help us organize and sort out our struggles in nuanced ways so we may more accurately heal and connect with mental health treatments that work. Yet is it a scientifically validated tool? Is it historically sound against naysayers? Perhaps most importantly, do the insights help peop…
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As the Paris Olympics gets off the ground this summer, we've got a few fun recommendations for you as well as some personal growth tips for finding the shining virtues for you and your relationships as well. Join Christa (and early guest Melody Hardin) for a discussion on what to be on the lookout for this Olympic season as well as what YOU can do …
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Are you ready to chart a course to a place of deeper connection and fulfillment? I hope so because in this episode I'm joined by Meredith Boggs to have a conversation about her latest book The Journey Home and why waiting is such necessary part of the journey home. * Learn more about Meredith: https://meredithwboggs.com * Purchase a copy of The Jou…
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"Mustard is magic." n this podcast episode, Ray Hardee joins Erin to share his inspiring running journey. Starting out as a way to improve his football skills, Ray's passion evolved into long-distance running, encompassing triathlons and marathons. He delves into his love for cross-training and his active involvement with Team World Vision, through…
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Marriage issues in the bedroom can be downright confusing and complex across varying couple dynamics and seasons of marriage, especially when unhealthy message is unintentionally filtered in from trauma in any capacity. In this short, sweet, and yet deep-diving episode, Christa walks you through the highlights of The Hidden Chapter of The Enneagram…
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Do you feel a lack of direction or margin in your life or relationship? That once you do get a few minutes to yourself, you’re overwhelmed and bogged down versus experiencing the refreshment, joy, and abundant life you know you're wired for? Today on the E + M podcast, you'll find the margin and clarity you need to thrive as we're joined by marketp…
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It is my joy and pleasure to have Jeanne Stevens back on the podcast! In this episode, Jeanne and I are discussing chapter ten, "Waiting and Control: Waiting Rooms", of her book (What's Here Now?), and complex prayers, and the unknown (cue "Let it Go" from Frozen). Purchase a copy of What's Here Now?: https://bookshop.org/a/104531/9780800740856 Fol…
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It feels so good to be known and seen for who we are, as well as to have clarified spaces from which to grow. To this end, today’s special shorter episode is a walk-through of the Enneagram type Ones and who they are, as well as who they can become as they walk toward health. If you're a One, learn how to become the healthiest version of yourself i…
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When a couple finds themselves aligned in values and begins to take care of themselves, often they're in the position to fulfill dreams and callings in a gorgeous new way. Today we get to talk to Raeanne Newquist who, along with her husband, left a predictable and safe life for a glorious adventure on Mercy Ships, where she and her family got to he…
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I've learned that there is a stark difference between envy and jealousy, so I've made a commitment to make others know about the difference. This commitment has led me to develop a theory about envy in each Enneagram type. * Join E+E Collective: enneagramrestored.com/founder ——— * Help grow the podcast: enneagramrestored.com/tipjar * Download free …
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On this episode Erin is joined by Christa Hardin, a runner and expert in Enneagrams and Marriage, shares her running journey and the importance of understanding personality types in relationships. She discusses her love for running since childhood and how it has evolved over the years. Krista emphasizes the need for proper fueling and rest in runni…
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It feels so good to be known and seen for who we are, as well as to have clarified spaces from which to grow. To this end, today’s special shorter episode is a walk-through of the Enneagram type Twos and who they are, as well as who they can become as they walk toward health. If you're a Two, learn how to become the healthiest version of yourself i…
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Healthy parenting involves not only the journey of helping to love our kids but also understanding ourselves and the ways we handle stress. This often involves doing some healing around our own developmental stories. When we learn to self-regulate well, we bring a non-anxious connected presence of attunement with our kids so they thrive and we thri…
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You've been hit by a waiting season. Now what? In today's episode, I take a look into how each type might enter their waiting season. And this is only the first step, but this entire season we're going deeper! So, make sure you tune back in each week to learn more about how to actively wait. * Leave a review of the podcast: enneagramrestored.com/re…
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It feels so good to be known and seen for who we are, as well as to have clarified spaces from which to grow. To this end, today’s special shorter episode is a walk-through of the Enneagram type Threes and who they are, as well as who they can become as they walk toward health. If you're a Three, learn how to become the healthiest version of yourse…
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Making negotiations in marriage is essential yet how we come to these is quite the task to undertake without good tools and training. Today we learn from an expert at negotiating in marriage, Dr. Wyatt Fisher (type 3/5) who has so many great tips for us today! Join in as we walk through them together strategically right here and use the tips today …
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