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Food52, Katie Quinn, Jen Phanomrat

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"Two Dope Queens meets Home Cooking" — Jen Phanomrat and Katie Quinn compare notes on everything from John Cena's influence on the chili crisp craze to ketchup's surprising origin, from either side of the Atlantic.
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Self-proclaimed fufu-head Peter J. Kim sits down with comedian Ego Nwodim and Afrobeat pioneers Femi and Made Kuti to discuss ultimate jollof, Nigerian religi-pop, and the beloved ball of cooked starch that goes by many names. Find more Counterjam episodes here; season 2 will look at Mexican, Jewish, Ethiopian, and French food and music; featuring …
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Co-hosts Katie (@QKatie) and Jen (@JenEatsLife) discuss the transformation of the modern-day kitchen as we know it: from the Industrial Revolution's impact on the woman's "place" in the kitchen, to how domestic duties have evolved over time. They also discuss their shared adoration for cooking infomercials with YouTuber Emmy Cho (@EmmyMade). Refere…
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A few years ago, Katie got cancelled over a video on mango con chile. Why? Katie and Jen talk about the cultural appropriation in food; how to share excitement over "discovery" of new foods sensitively; and the importance of better, more diverse representation in media. They're later joined by pastry chef and The Pastry Chef's Guide author Ravneet …
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Co-hosts Katie (@QKatie) and Jen (@JenEatsLife) talk all things spice—and the not-so-nice. They trace peppers' trade routes and WWE professional wrestler John Cena's contribution to the chile crisp trend. Later in the episode, they dissect the anatomy of a perfect chili oil with Eater's social media manager James Park (@jamesyworld). Special thanks…
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It's a nutty episode: co-hosts Katie and Jen talk about Americans' obsession with peanut butter (plus Italians' indifference to the stuff), Haiti's "spicy peanut butter," and the various peanut "seasonings" in south Asian cuisines. Later on Food52 resident and Great British Bake-Off semi-finalist Chetna Makan joins to talk about her later-in-life a…
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Co-hosts Jen Phanomrat and Katie Quinn discuss the history and concept of "cucina povera" (making the most from simple, seasonal ingredients); Anna Maggio's Under the Olive Tree; and how we can see hints of this "poor cooking" approach in viral food trends today. Later on, chef and VICE Counter Space's Sophia Roe shares why equal access greater rep…
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Jen Phanomrat and Katie Quinn talk about the happiest hour, aka aperitivo, apéritif, and fika. They also talk about airplane food, ice cubes in wine, and how Apéritif author Rebekah Peppler and Food Network TV personality Rachel Khoo craft Friday coziness affordably. Special thanks to our listeners for your questions and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for o…
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Who knew ketchup could be so controversial? Co-hosts Katie Quinn and Jen Phanomrat are joined by Tastemade's Frankie Celenza to discuss which foods are OK to smother in the stuff, catsup's surprising original formula (hint: no tomato), banana ketchup (!), homemade ketchup (!!), and why Heinz has remained king. You can find Frankie's Tastemade show,…
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Quick: are you a pancakes or eggs benny person? Congee or oats? Filipino-Thai New Yorker Jen Phanomrat grew up with silog for breakfast; Katie Quinn's Midwestern household usually had cereal. On this episode, they discuss breakfast traditions across the world, and discover many surprising universalities. They're joined by Chef and Founder of Little…
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New-Yorker-for-life Jen keeps her eggs in her fridge; Katie, who's now in Puglia, used to but now doesn't—as per her Egg Guy's (yup) recommendation. We look at which cultures chill vs. not, what makes an egg brown or white (and orange-yolked!), if a "proper" omelet even exists, and consult very special guest, Canadian actress and comedian Julie Nol…
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For the past 10 years, the Food52 Editors have been answering the community's questions on the Food52 Hotline. We've debated the very best way to cut an onion, whether garlic pressing is sacrilegious, and compared notes on how to get the crispiest chicken skin. And now, we're taking those questions to the airwaves! Hosted by chef and restaurateur E…
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Why are Brits so obsessed with halloumi? Just Eats Life's Jen Phanomrat (and New Yorker for life!) and expat-in-Europe Katie Quinn look at the hella complicated history of halloumi. Some more ways to houdini cheese into your life: Cheddar Brownies recipe from Katie's newest book (!) the Masamman Halloumi Curry Jen mentions Special thanks to our lis…
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