Dopey 485: Jed's Relapse! Smoke Shop Drugs: Tianeptine and Kratom, Remembering Chris! Stephen Murray! Heroin, Meth, Recovery!

Dopey: On the Dark Comedy of Drug Addiction

This Week on Dopey! We are paying homage to Chris on the 6th anniversary of his tragic death. We are joined by Jed Payne from Church and Other Drugs Podcast and talk about his harrowing Kratom recovery and how he got to celebrate his first father's day! PLUS Stephen Murray from the Safe Spot Hotline calls in to help us celebrate Dopey Day AKA ChrisMiss in August with the new CALL-A-DOPE piece of Dopey Day! If anyone is using please call 1-800-972-0590 to help prevent overdose! PLUS emails, voicemails, tattoos, Dopeycon, Dopey Day! PLUS we sneak The This American Life Dopey Segment just to fuck everybody up!
All that and more on a brand spanking new but. eerily familiar episode of that good ol Dopey Podcast!!!! In this part of the conversation, David Manheim discusses various topics including Bob Marley, Dopey Day, DopeyCon, and his personal experiences with addiction and recovery. He also shares an email from a listener and announces anniversaries of Dopey Nation members. Jed from Church and Other Drugs Podcast joins the conversation and talks about his journey of addiction, relapse, and recovery. In this part of the conversation, David and Jed discuss Jed's harrowing experiences with addiction, including his relapses and the impact on his personal life. They also touch on the dangers of using substances like kratom and the importance of seeking help and treatment. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the upcoming Dopey con and the partnership with Safe Spot to provide support for addicts. The conversation in this part of the recording focuses on the Save Spot hotline, a helpline for people who use drugs and want to ensure their safety. The hotline provides support and guidance to individuals before and during drug use, with the goal of preventing fatal overdoses. The hosts discuss the importance of the hotline and how it can save lives. They also emphasize the non-judgmental and supportive nature of the hotline, as well as the sense of community it fosters. The episode concludes with a tribute to a friend who died from an overdose. In this final part of the conversation, David Manheim reflects on the tragic death of his co-host Chris and the future of the Dopey podcast. He shares the events leading up to Chris's relapse and overdose, including their last episode together and the signs of Chris's drug use. David grapples with feelings of guilt and responsibility, but ultimately decides to continue the show as a way to honor Chris's memory and raise awareness about addiction. The episode ends with a lighthearted banjo cover of Dave's song and a message of hope for the future. KeywordsBob Marley, Dopey Day, DopeyCon, addiction, recovery, email, anniversaries, Church and Other Drugs Podcast, addiction, relapse, treatment, kratom, Dopey con, Safe Spot, Save Spot hotline, drug use, safety, fatal overdose, support, community, non-judgmental, tribute, addiction, relapse, overdose, grief, podcast, Dopey, memory, awareness Takeaways

• Bob Marley's music is loved by many, and David Manheim and his guest discuss their favorite songs.
• Dopey Day is celebrated on August 16th, and listeners are encouraged to record messages to be included in the Dopey Day show.
• DopeyCon is an upcoming event that will feature various guests and activities.
• David Manheim shares an email from a listener who found strength and inspiration from the Dopey podcast.
• Jed from Church and Other Drugs Podcast shares his personal journey of addiction, relapse, and recovery. Addiction can lead to devastating consequences, including relapses and strained relationships.
• Substances like kratom can be addictive and have negative effects on one's quality of life.
• Seeking help and treatment is crucial for recovery and maintaining sobriety.
• The Dopey con event provides an opportunity for individuals in recovery to connect and support each other.
• Partnerships with organizations like Safe Spot can offer valuable resources and support for addicts. The Save Spot hotline provides support and guidance to individuals who use drugs and want to ensure their safety.
• The hotline aims to prevent fatal overdoses by offering non-judgmental and supportive assistance before and during drug use.
• The hotline creates a sense of community among its operators and callers, who share a common experience.
• The hosts emphasize the importance of reaching out for help and the potential to save lives through the hotline.
• The episode concludes with a tribute to a friend who died from an overdose, highlighting the devastating impact of addiction. The tragic death of Chris highlights the devastating impact of addiction and the constant risk of relapse
• Guilt and responsibility are common emotions experienced by loved ones after a relapse or overdose
• Continuing the podcast is a way for David to honor Chris's memory and raise awareness about addiction
• The banjo cover at the end of the episode serves as a reminder of the importance of finding joy and hope in the midst of grief

Titles

• Dopey Day and DopeyCon
• Celebrating Bob Marley's Music Celebrating Sobriety at Dopey con
• Jed's Harrowing Journey Through Addiction Building a Supportive Community: The Save Spot Hotline
• Preventing Fatal Overdoses: The Role of the Save Spot Hotline Reflecting on Tragedy: Chris's Relapse and Death
• Guilt and Responsibility: Navigating the Aftermath
• Titles
  • The Dangers of Smoke Shop Drugs: Tianeptine and Kratom
  • From Counselor to Patient: Navigating Treatment and Rehab Exploring the Symbolism of Dreams
  • Overcoming Kratom Addiction: Jed's Story
  Sound Bites
  • "Vivitrol is just naltrexone, so it is only an opioid antagonist."
  • "The sublicate shot you do the first three days after the shot, you are blasted, dude."
  • "I got just blindsided with cravings like you wouldn't believe."
  • "You're such a fucking piece of work. I swear to God."
  • "I woke up in was the intense feeling of impending doom and unbelievable fear and panic attack, dude."
  • "Yeah, I'm still on Vivitrol."

Sound Bites

• "What's my favorite Bob Marley? We're doing Joby, we're not doing Bob Marley."
• "Welcome to Dopey, the podcast on drugs, addiction, and other dumb shit."
• "Call a Dope on Dopey Day."
• "I got sick. Oh, God. I was on an eight-hour bus ride from Puerto Vallarta to Guadalajara and I was just in the bus bathroom puking my guts out, dude."
• "I'm just struggling to get honest. So I just, I tell my parents and I tell my boss that, hey, don't worry, but I am extremely suicidal. So I'm going to go to a mental institution for 30 days."
• "The reason that I'm doing all of this is just like immediately plucked away and it's just, it's... I can't even really accurately convey like the fucking emotions."
• "If Chris, when he was using, could have called this number, maybe we wouldn't be doing all this."
• "You can still get high, but if it goes wrong, you don't have to die."
• "How do we scale this hotline to the point where we make what we would call a population level impact?"
• "The worst thing that could have ever happened happened, and Chris relapsed and died."
• "Dopey, as the nation knew it, is gone, along with Chris."
• "The show is mostly a recovery show now. I guess that is true. But it always was in its own way."

Chapters 00:00Introduction and Bob Marley 05:54Email from a Listener 21:20Remembering Chris and His Legacy 28:00Jed's Journey of Turning His Life Around 39:08Jed's Experience with TNeptine 50:43The Dangers of Kratom and the Importance of Seeking Help 56:02The Consequences of Relapse 01:08:24Partnering with Safe Spot to Support Addicts 01:26:16The Importance of the Save Spot Hotline 01:31:19The Unpredictability of the Dope Supply 01:41:40The Impact of the This American Life Episode 01:49:09Todd as the Foil to the Sober Good Life 02:00:11The Tragic Loss of Todd 02:07:01Tragedy Strikes: Chris's Relapse and Death 02:14:29Guilt and Responsibility: Navigating the Aftermath 02:19:49Honoring Chris's Memory: Continuing the Dopey Podcast 02:35:19Finding Joy in Grief: A Banjo Cover and Message of Hope