Sam Sanders: Life Has Been Lifing

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine

Sam Sanders is a well known and well loved radio and podcast host. He went a little extra-viral for a recent episode of his show, Vibe Check, in which he and his co-hosts openly discussed grief. Maybe you heard that episode: Life Has Been Lifing Lately.

This week on It’s OK That You’re Not OK, Sam joins us to talk about being open with his grief, and the ongoing relationships we have even after death.

In this episode we cover:

• What happens if you give grief a voice?
• The double-edged sword of church communities
• Why understanding context helps you treat yourself more kindly
• How men speaking honestly about grief helps everyone
• Throwing out the rule book on grief

We're re-releasing some of our favorite episodes from the first 3 seasons. This episode was originally recorded in 2023.

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About our guest:

Sam Sanders is the host of Into It, the flagship culture podcast from Vulture, and the co-host of Vibe Check on Stitcher. He covered electoral politics for NPR, and was one of the original co-hosts of The NPR Politics Podcast. Sam also created and hosted the NPR news & culture podcast, It’s Been a Minute. Find him on social @samsanders

About Megan:

Psychotherapist Megan Devine is one of today’s leading experts on grief, from life-altering losses to the everyday grief that we don’t call grief. Get the best-selling book on grief in over a decade, It’s Ok that You’re Not OK, wherever you get books. Find Megan @refugeingrief

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